I used to cut this guy slack. I thought it was just a rough break that he lost in the playoffs, and wasn't really a reflection of his coaching ability. I mean afterall he did have 50 wins in 6 out of his last 7 full seasons. But at some point, you have to look at the coach when he gets three #1 seeds in a span of four years and can't take any of them to the finals. At some point you have to blame a coach who couldn't take three 50 win teams out of the first round or a 64 win team out of the east. I don't know if there's another guy with his track record of having lots of talent and failing in the playoffs.
I completely agree. I posted my reasons in another thread yesterday stating I think hes not good enough. Hes okay, but I think he really hurt the pistons in game 5 without changing up the defense. I know they dont have Ben Wallace anymore, but in a crippled East, you have to take a team who has 3 allstars...and one very close to being one(Prince) and Webber who is still solid to the NBA Finals. I think he gets booted and a more defensive minded coach will be hired.
I was thinking Larry Brown or Mike Fratello. Frat doesn't have that great of a playoff record though. But Brown would be good...but I doubt that will ever happen. You should go ahead and trade for Big Ben in that case...lol.
Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with the guy. I don't know much about him, but I don't like him. This team is just so good, but can't do anything under Flipper here. I know so little about him, but I was thinking the exact same thing tonight.
Larry Brown would be great to bring back. I never understood why you fire a coach when he gets you 2 minutes from winning a championship. Rick Carlisle would be a nice fit for the pistons defense also. It'll be interesting to see whether the Pistons keep their core this offseason.
I've never really been a fan of Flip, and this series showed why. His rotations are garbage most of the time, he either plays the bench at the wrong times(when we're maybe five points away from putting the game away, he'll put the bench in and the other team will be right back in it.) or doesn't play them at all. Even if he puts someone in and he doesn't do anything(coughflipmurraycough) he'll leave him in. He was supposed to be a great offensive coach, I didn't see that at all. Especially coming out of timeouts, the players just stand there and one person dribbles down the shot clock and either fires up a contested jumper, turns it over, or tries to drive and throws up a terrible shot. I agree we need a defensive minded coach for sure.
Well if everyone can have their fun and make themselves look smart by saying they predicted the Suns would never win with D'Antoni....I guess I'll do the same. After last year I said Saunders wasn't a good coach and the Pistons wouldn't win with him. Well, booya! I was correct....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Larry Brown would be great to bring back. I never understood why you fire a coach when he gets you 2 minutes from winning a championship</div>Brown is a money grubbing ho who was interviewing for jobs while coaching the Pistons. Why would they bring him back? So he can steal more money.
When things go wrong blame Flip, that's pretty old and it isn't fair at all. Its funny when Detroit were 3-0 up on Chicago and all of that everyone was loving Flip and his defense but now Detroit ran out of gas its fire flip again. You guys said he needed to use the bench last year, he did and still didn't get over the hump. Maybe its not flip and maybe its this team. You can't win with the same damn team over and over, you have to have some kind of change and in the off season Joe D really doesn't change the team. Detroit is not that damn good as they think they are, without all of their cockiness they maybe win this series. You can't blame their egos on Flip. You can't blame Tay going 16-69 or whatever for the series on Flip. You can't blame Delfino not showing up in the post season again on Flip and all of that bs. Just like the crew on tnt said, when things go wrong people want to turn on flip and it ain't fair.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jun 3 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brown is a money grubbing ho who was interviewing for jobs while coaching the Pistons. Why would they bring him back? So he can steal more money.</div>Did the same thing to the Nets and another club too. He is a snake.
I've never been a huge fan whether we were winning or losing or whatever. The guy drives me f*cking nuts with his questionable rotations. He probably has the slowest reactions in the league when it comes to making adjustments due to the flow of the game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 3 2007, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Larry Brown would be great to bring back. I never understood why you fire a coach when he gets you 2 minutes from winning a championship.</div> Oh, you mean the same Larry Brown that was actively looking for another job during the Pistons finals 2 years ago? Larry Brown is obviously a hell of a coach, but what he did was classless.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 3 2007, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, you mean the same Larry Brown that was actively looking for another job during the Pistons finals 2 years ago? Larry Brown is obviously a hell of a coach, but what he did was classless.</div>The Pistons were the ones who decided to pay out his contract though, in the end it was them who pushed him out not him trying to leave. He was just looking for options. He had already won them a title also, I just dont get why they do that move of firing him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 3 2007, 03:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll be honest, bring back Larry Brown.I don't care what he did to us, I want to win.</div>True that. I would pay to have Brown back. Sure hes greedy and immoral but he won us games. Flip seems to be a good regular season coach, and a smart guy but for some reason he cant get it done in the post-season. But to put all the blame on him is foolish. After all, the players are the ones on the court. But it just seems like with all the talent on this roster, and the weak East, we should of been in the Finals last year and this year. One thing that isnt really Detroits fault though, is the fact that we came across two superstars who were both hitting the pinnacle of their season when we came accross them. I dont think anybody could of stopped Wade last year, and no one can this year with LeBron.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Pistons were the ones who decided to pay out his contract though, in the end it was them who pushed him out not him trying to leave. He was just looking for options. He had already won them a title also, I just dont get why they do that move of firing him.</div>This seems like a broken record when it seems like the actual person at fault is the victim with your posts. Larry Brown obviously did not want to be there and they lost the same year he was actively seeking jobs. It wasn't Pistons looking at coaching options or letting Brown know he was not returning. It was Larry Brown who forced the Pistons to let him go. And it's not the first time Brown has done this, he ain't no victim.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jun 3 2007, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This seems like a broken record when it seems like the actual person at fault is the victim with your posts. Larry Brown obviously did not want to be there and they lost the same year he was actively seeking jobs. It wasn't Pistons looking at coaching options or letting Brown know he was not returning. It was Larry Brown who forced the Pistons to let him go. And it's not the first time Brown has done this, he ain't no victim.</div>With the Pistons situation he did not leave of free will, he was looking at his options and at the same time all playoffs the Pistons had been talking about firing him if they didnt win. They ended up losing a close series and paid off his contract. IF Joe Dumars hadnt made the first move, Brown would still be pistons coach. Brown has a history of leaving teams but I think he meant moreso to see where his options could get him and look into teams because of the way he is and if an option were to present itself rather than to leave the pistons entirely.
