<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well, the season is over, and it's safe to say the Pistons fell short of nearly everyone's expectations. So now, as fans and media dissect the past season and the immediate future, the early response is the Pistons have to make at least one impact trade.Wojo, dug up 2005's favorite rumor. Cue the siren. June 4, Detroit News: There are numerous paths to explore. Here's my old, bold suggestion: Find out what it would take to get Kevin Garnett. I know it's never been considered realistic, but Minnesota might have no choice but to trade him because Garnett can be a free agent after next season. Surrendering two big pieces (Hamilton and Wallace?) would be a place for Dumars to start. Garnett has played for Saunders and might cost less than, say, Kobe Bryant. He also has to be one hungry 31-year-old superstar without a title.Chris McCosky doesn't think Garnett is likely. He's got another target in mind. June 4, Detroit News: How about Jermaine O'Neal (three years left at $20 million per), Paul Pierce (owed $76 million through 2011), Kobe Bryant ($20-plus million through 2011) or Vince Carter (free agent)? Would you really break up the core of this team for any of those players? It is doubtful Dumars would. What is perhaps more plausible would be taking a run a Phoenix's Shawn Marion. Marion, who would give the Pistons' front court the quickness and athleticism it lacks, has two years and $33.5 million left. The Pistons would have to offer Wallace and another player (Johnson?) to pique the Suns' interest.Interesting idea, but running Prince and Marion on the court at the same time would be defensively risky unless the Pistons went the way of the Suns and tried to run-and-gun other teams off the court.The most popular rumor involves the Pistons swinging a deal to land Portland malcontent forward Zach Randolph. Bodog.com has the Pistons as the betting favorite (7/2) to land Randolph.Yep, people will gamble on anything.So what would it take for the Pistons to land Randolph. Drew Sharp has an idea. June 4, Detroit Free Press: Offer Rip Hamilton in a trade package with Portland to acquire 25-year-old power forward Zach Randolph. Randolph, who played one season at Michigan State, would provide the easier scoring opportunities that the Pistons still so desperately desire.One Blazer blogger thinks the Randolph is worth a little more than Hamilton. June 4, Oregonlive.com: With Pistons out again, maybe they need to start over and go younger. Zach is an MSU guy and only 25. So, Zach and Jack for Chauncey (who is free agent) in sign and trade deal. Blazers groom Rodriguez to become the PG of future maybe 3 yrs from now, meanwhle Chauncey guides the young bucks through their transition, adds scoring and defensive punch, toughness, and playoff experience.Rasheed and Randolph reunited here in Detroit? What's Arvydas Sabonis doing?Don't worry, Sam Smith, and his infinite wisdom about trade rumors, thinks Rasheed is got a one-way ticket to the Big Apple. June 4, Chicago Tribune: As for the Pistons, figure it's over on some level. With his final meltdown and ejection, Rasheed Wallace has probably received his last technical in a Pistons uniform. With only two years left on his contract, though at an average of about $13.5 million, Wallace has some appeal. The consensus is Knicks GM Isiah Thomas will be thwarted by the Lakers in trying to get Jermaine O'Neal and by the Sonics in some form of sign and trade or straight free agency for Rashard Lewis. Wallace talked about going to the Knicks before he re-signed with the Pistons in 2004.</div>
I posted the Marion thing in the Suns forum. I'd like to have him on my team if they offer the right package. This article should be in the Pistons section.
Why? I see thinks that are just about LeBron, Kobe etc. in the General NBA discussion.Sorry to start a fuss, just wondering.
Gettign Marion would be awesome, I'd be down with giving anything on our team to get him really. The only problem now is Steve Kerr is the GM..and if I remember correctly from reading his articles..he's not really a Rasheed Wallace fan.
Because topics that have to do a specific team should stay in the team forums. I don't know about LeBron. Maybe because it's not really team news, but discussing stuff he did in the playoffs as one of the best in the league. There are too many LeBron threads though.... I just think this is where a thread like this should be because if not we'd be seeing tons of trade threads in General NBA and no team forum activity. JHMO as a mod. :-/
Keep sheed, he's emotional but he's not the problem. I'm shocked Rip is in trade discussions too, wtf these have been the most consistent guys in this playoffs run. Why in the hell is Prince getting a pass, oh its because he's young? That's a lot of bull if that's the reason. Out of the 4 main core guys Prince has performed the least all season and all playoffs and its unfair for guys like Rip and Sheed to be brought up as all of the blame and all of this trade talk and Prince gets a pass like that.
What is your beef against Prince?BTW: Prince performed the best on the team in the first two rounds of the playoffs...Your just looking at his numbers. Sure he didnt average alot of points, but hes one of the best role players in the league. He sets good screens, moves without the ball, and can drive when needed to. To boot, hes one of the best on-ball defenders in the L.
Prince played pretty bad and missed a ton of shots this series..but I really think he was rundown and out of gas.His play this year has been great, and yes..he does get a stay card for being a bit younger. Would I trade him? Sure if a good deal came along. But I'd look to trade others on the team first. We need to increase or 4-6 great players to 6-8 great players, and be able to put a consistent scorer into the mix at the same time.Probably impossible todo all that with the way the team is aligned..which is why I would break it up.
LMAAAAAAAAAO, wow man I hope you're not serious. I was actually just taking up for Sheed and Rip because you hear all of this trade sheed trade rip but they were the ones who played the best all playoffs long. Prince sets good screens? Haha, no one budges on them screens he set so what are you looking at. Prince one of the best on ball defenders in the league? No, Bruce Bowen, Kobe Bryant, Eric Snow, Lindsey Hunter are some of the best on the ball defenders in the league, Prince is an weak side defender. He gets majority of his blocks in transition or off the weak side, when he so calls stops lebron or does a good job on lebron or guys of his potential its usually because the bigs are picking up his slack. Tayshaun maybe can drive when he needs to but he ain't aggressive enough majority of the time. And btw: Prince didn't perform the best the first two rounds. The first round was majority of Sheed and the starting guards, second round Prince was decent but not the best player and in conference finals dude was just terrible. I'm not out for prince or have nothing against Prince, I'm just tired of him getting a pass on everything. I do want him to stay if we can't get a guy like Lewis who I want a lot but Prince has to be aggressive and continue to improve. In 2004 I saw a hungry Prince who actually did play D but since I really ain't saw it too much. He needs to get back to that level if this team is going to go anywhere with him on the roster.
Prince didn't have a great season, it was an decent season. Going into the season the offense was supposed to run more through Prince, it was supposed to be his breakout season but after he didn't take advantage of that in the beginning of the season Flip went away from him. Tay needs to be more aggressive, I really hope he has some type of an breakout season next year. Hopefully we can get Th. Young as his backup or some kind of veteran through free agency with the MLE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Jun 4 2007, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Prince played pretty bad and missed a ton of shots this series..but I really think he was rundown and out of gas.</div>That's why we need Thaddeus Young. Prince is a workhorse.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 4 2007, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's why we need Thaddeus Young. Prince is a workhorse.</div>Yeah..dude has played in every game the last 4 years as well...which is a good thing of course. I'm not liking the fact he might play for the USA team either.
I think there are a lot of piston fans out there including me who doesn't want to see Sheed traded BUT if there was an opportunity to get someone like KG then there is no way we should pass on the offer. Sheed is the emotional leader of the Pistons but to me he became inconsistent especially in the conference finals. I think Joe D is looking to all trade possibilities, and he finnaly realizes that the Pistons need at least 1 superstar/impact player to surround the core of Billups-Hamilton-Prince. HoLLa baCk
Antawn Jamison + Etan ThomasforRasheed Wallace + Nazr MohammedYou guys get an extremely talented scorer in Jamison, who is, by no means, declining in many aspects of his game. Thomas is a dirty work guy that can give you solid defensive rebounding and an immtimidating presence in the paint. Dumars can decide if he wants to stick with Jamison after a year and see how he works out or rebuild with younger players. What do you guys think?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jun 4 2007, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Antawn Jamison + Etan ThomasforRasheed Wallace + Nazr MohammedYou guys get an extremely talented scorer in Jamison, who is, by no means, declining in many aspects of his game. Thomas is a dirty work guy that can give you solid defensive rebounding and an immtimidating presence in the paint. Dumars can decide if he wants to stick with Jamison after a year and see how he works out or rebuild with younger players. What do you guys think?</div> No and NO... And we ain't getting KG ya'll, get over that.
Many people are starting to think that this is the end of the Pistons run, but if they could somehow get Marion, it could turn into just the opposite. It seems Marion wants the chance to be a leader on his own team, and while he may not be the actual leader, he would be the most talented player on the Pistons.
I guess if the Pistons are trying to acquire Marion, Randolph, KG or any impact player Sheed would have to be involved. I think a 3rd team might have to be involved because it seems right now that the Knicks seem to be the only team who might take Sheed(at this point in his career). Do you guys honestly think Marion is the answer? Sure he is great around the basket and could hit the occasional 3 but as most people said he is a lot like Prince.Randolph would be great but we still have no 5, unless Webber decides not to retire or we sign someone like P.J Brown. KG is the ultimate answer BUT he might prove to be too costly and once again we don't have a 5. It's still a while till free agency and the trading but it doesn't help to think what the Pistons could get right? HoLLa baCk
