HEIGHT AND WEIGHT MEASUREMENTS PLAYER HEIGHT (w/o shoes) HEIGHT (w/shoes) WEIGHT WINGSPAN STANDING REACH Corey Brewer 6-6? 6-7? 185 6-8? 8-7 Mike Conley 5-11? 6-0? 175 6-5? 7-10? Daequan Cook 6-3? 6-5? 203 6-8? 8-5? Javaris Crittenton 6-3 6-4? 194 6-5? 8-2 Kevin Durant 6-9 6-10? 215 7-4? 9-2 Jeff Green 6-7? 6-9? 228 7-1? 8-7 Spencer Hawes 6-10? 7-0? 244 7-0? 9-2 Al Horford 6-8? 6-9? 244 7-0? 8-11 Acie Law 6-2 6-3? 186 6-6? 8-2 Josh McRoberts 6-8? 6-10 240 7-1 8-10? Greg Oden 6-11 7-0 257 7-4? 9-4 Joakim Noah 6-10? 7-0 223 7-1? 8-10? Jason Smith 6-10? 6-11? 233 6-10? 8-10 Rodney Stuckey 6-3? 6-4? 207 6-7? 8-4? Al Thornton 6-5? 6-7 221 7-1 8-8 Brandan Wright 6-8? 6-10 200 7-3? 9-0 Julian Wright 6-6? 6-8? 211 7-2? 9-0 Nick Young 6-5 6-6? 206 7-0 8-4? Thaddeus Young 6-5? 6-7? 210 6-11? 8-10 COMBINE RESULTS PLAYER NO STEP VERTICAL MAX VERTICAL BENCH PRESS LANE AGILITY 3/4 COURT SPRINT Corey Brewer 30.5 36.5 11 11.69 3.22 Mike Conley 35.5 40.5 13 11.63 3.09 Daequan Cook 30 34.5 4 11.12 3.22 Javaris Crittenton 32.5 38 11 11.6 3.32 Kevin Durant 26 33 0 12.33 3.45 Jeff Green 33.5 38 17 12.0 3.34 Spencer Hawes 26 29 9 11.88 3.51 Al Horford 31 35.5 20 12.15 3.37 Acie Law 29 34 8 11.0 3.22 Josh McRoberts 27.5 31.5 12 11.7 3.47 Greg Oden 32 34 0 11.67 3.27 Joakim Noah 32.5 37.5 12 11.79 3.47 Jason Smith 33.5 37.5 15 10.96 3.29 Rodney Stuckey 30.5 35 14 11.34 3.11 Al Thornton 35 41.5 9 11.96 3.16 Brandan Wright 30.5 35.5 2 11.76 3.31 Julian Wright 28.5 33.5 2 11.48 3.36 Nick Young 39.5 40.5 6 11.0 3.25 Thaddeus Young 34.5 37 13 11.06 3.19 Surprised me that Kevin Durant had a 7'4-3/4 wingspan and a 9-2 standing reach. He could actually continue to be a rebounding threat in the NBA.
Oden: 7-4" wingspan!!!I though Brandan Wright was taller than that. 7-3 wingspan is impressive though
bradon wright's number are downright scary bad.he's 6'8" and only 200 lbs? only 2 bench presses? not encouraging at all
I don't put much stock into these measurements at all, but there is one thing that jumped out at me this year: Al Thornton just over 6'5'' without shoes? Wow.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nextstar1019 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, nut look how fast he is I never knew he was that quick</div> Oh he's a freak athlete, but 6'5'' and 3/4? For someone who's supposed to be a combo forward, that's very short. That's a SG's height. Whether he's 6'5'' or 6'8'', he still is a very versatile scorer, but I thought he was a little taller than that.
I read the measurements on ESPN.com, Al Horford seems to be quite an athlete. Didnt realize he was that athletic being that big. Now I sortve do want him, lol.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 4 2007, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he's a freak athlete, but 6'5'' and 3/4? For someone who's supposed to be a combo forward, that's very short. That's a SG's height. Whether he's 6'5'' or 6'8'', he still is a very versatile scorer, but I thought he was a little taller than that.</div>I guarantee you, if you look at the measurements of some other NBA players in comparison (without shoes), you would be shocked at that too. Shoes add about an inch or more to your normal height.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guarantee you, if you look at the measurements of some other NBA players in comparison (without shoes), you would be shocked at that too. Shoes add about an inch or more to your normal height.</div> Yeah I know. 95% of the NBA measurements are fake. If a player measures at 6'3'' in-house, they write him down as 6'5''. It's pretty stupid to me, I never understood the point of fabricating everybody's height, but oh well.
I read once that the NBA will list players like Nate Robinson, Spud Webb, etc. for their benefit. This also happened with Charles Barkley whos been listed from 6'6 to even 6'8...when hes really about 6'4...which is amazing when you think about his rebounding. And Nate Robinson is really probably 5'7 or 5'8, hes listed from 5'9 to 5'11.
Heres the whole article <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The NBA released the testing results from the Orlando pre-draft camp on Monday. For the fifth straight year Insider has obtained this confidential report from a league source. Maryland guard D.J. Strawberry ranked as the draft's best athlete followed by Notre Dame's Russell Carter and Marquette's Dominic James. Ohio State's Mike Conley ranked fourth, Purdue's Carl Landry ranked fifth, Temple's Dustin Salisbery was sixth, Georgia Tech's Thaddeus Young was seventh, Colorado State's Jason Smith was eighth, Ohio State's Ron Lewis was ninth and Eastern Washington's Rodney Stuckey ranked 10th. In individual stats, Carter bench pressed 185 pounds the most times with 25 reps. Thaddeus Young had the highest maximum vertical with 41.5 inches. Syracuse forward Demetris Nichols had the fastest lane agility drill at 10.39 seconds. And Conley finished with the fastest sprint time of 3.09 seconds. Here's a look at how the top prospects in the draft fared (note that Yi Jianlian didn't participate): HEIGHT AND WEIGHT MEASUREMENTS PLAYER HEIGHT (w/o shoes) HEIGHT (w/shoes) WEIGHT WINGSPAN STANDING REACH Corey Brewer 6-6? 6-7? 185 6-8? 8-7 Mike Conley 5-11? 6-0? 175 6-5? 7-10? Daequan Cook 6-3? 6-5? 203 6-8? 8-5? Javaris Crittenton 6-3 6-4? 194 6-5? 8-2 Kevin Durant 6-9 6-10? 215 7-4? 9-2 Jeff Green 6-7? 6-9? 228 7-1? 8-7 Spencer Hawes 6-10? 7-0? 244 7-0? 9-2 Al Horford 6-8? 6-9? 244 7-0? 8-11 Acie Law 6-2 6-3? 186 6-6? 8-2 Josh McRoberts 6-8? 6-10 240 7-1 8-10? Greg Oden 6-11 7-0 257 7-4? 9-4 Joakim Noah 6-10? 7-0 223 7-1? 8-10? Jason Smith 6-10? 6-11? 233 6-10? 8-10 Rodney Stuckey 6-3? 6-4? 207 6-7? 8-4? Al Thornton 6-5? 6-7 221 7-1 8-8 Brandan Wright 6-8? 6-10 200 7-3? 9-0 Julian Wright 6-6? 6-8? 211 7-2? 9-0 Nick Young 6-5 6-6? 206 7-0 8-4? Thaddeus Young 6-5? 6-7? 210 6-11? 8-10 COMBINE RESULTS PLAYER NO STEP VERTICAL MAX VERTICAL BENCH PRESS LANE AGILITY 3/4 COURT SPRINT Corey Brewer 30.5 36.5 11 11.69 3.22 Mike Conley 35.5 40.5 13 11.63 3.09 Daequan Cook 30 34.5 4 11.12 3.22 Javaris Crittenton 32.5 38 11 11.6 3.32 Kevin Durant 26 33 0 12.33 3.45 Jeff Green 33.5 38 17 12.0 3.34 Spencer Hawes 26 29 9 11.88 3.51 Al Horford 31 35.5 20 12.15 3.37 Acie Law 29 34 8 11.0 3.22 Josh McRoberts 27.5 31.5 12 11.7 3.47 Greg Oden 32 34 0 11.67 3.27 Joakim Noah 32.5 37.5 12 11.79 3.47 Jason Smith 33.5 37.5 15 10.96 3.29 Rodney Stuckey 30.5 35 14 11.34 3.11 Al Thornton 35 41.5 9 11.96 3.16 Brandan Wright 30.5 35.5 2 11.76 3.31 Julian Wright 28.5 33.5 2 11.48 3.36 Nick Young 39.5 40.5 6 11.0 3.25 Thaddeus Young 34.5 37 13 11.06 3.19 A number of interesting things stand out from the testing results. The big winner here seems to be Greg Oden, who tested off the charts in agility and speed for a big man. He didn't take the bench press test because of concerns about his wrist. But if he had he may have been in the Top 10 for best athletes in the draft. That's huge for a center. Conversely, Kevin Durant tested much worse than anticipated. His vertical jump, strength and lane agility drills were all poor for a prospect of his magnitude. Will it affect his draft stock? According to one NBA executive, "No one will care, he's a basketball player. But if you're comparing him to Oden, then yes, Oden is the big winner." Oden's teammate, Conley, didn't do too shabby either. He has great length for his size, an amazing vertical and great speed. His 13 reps on the bench press were also very impressive for someone his size. Colorado State 's Jason Smith is the other guy that really jumps out at you. As we wrote in our review of his workout, Smith is much more athletic than you think. And his lane agility and sprint tests are off the charts. His vertical jump and strength aren't too shabby either. He does have short arms, but everything else turned out great. Nick Young is another guy who came out looking well, though I think that standing reach number must be a typo. His no step vertical of 39.5 inches was flat out amazing. Eastern Washington 's Rodney Stuckey also came out smelling sweet. He didn't dominate in any one category, but tested well enough in each one to dismiss talk that he wasn't a good enough athlete. Here's a couple of other interesting notes: ? What's the difference between Al Horford and Brandan Wright? They are both roughly the same height. They both have a 35.5-inch maximum vertical. And their standing reach is within one inch of each other. That's where the comparisons end. Horford has 44 pounds on Wright. He benched 185 pounds 18 more times. And he's much more skilled as a post player right now. I think this may put more GMs in the Horford corner. ? A lot has also been made about the quality of the small forwards in the draft. So how did Corey Brewer, Julian Wright, Jeff Green, Al Thornton and Thaddeus Young compare? Green was the tallest of the group, standing 6-9.5 in shoes. Brewer, Thornton, Wright and Young all measured shorter than expected. Wright has the longest wingspan at 7-2? feet. Green was a close second with 7-1?. Brewer's wingspan was significantly shorter than reported. Wright also had the tallest standing reach at 9 feet. Thornton has the best max vertical at 41.5 inches. Green was second with 38 inches. Wright was the only disappointment here with just 33.5 inches. In the lane agility drills, Young was the quickest at 11.09 seconds. Wright was second. In a flat out sprint, Thornton would win with Young a close second. The strongest was easily Green with 17 reps of the 185 pounds. Wright was the only one to do poorly with just two reps. If you were just going to rank them on their physical testing and size, it might look something like this: 1. Green 2. Young 3. Thornton 4. Wright 5. Brewer That's a big loss for Brewer whose rep in almost every category was better than he tested. ? Brewer wasn't the only guy to take a hit in the testing. As we mentioned, Durant's tests weren't impressive. Neither were Spencer Hawes' (no big surprise there) or Josh McRoberts'. And Brandan Wright also was a mild disappointment -- he was not nearly as athletic as advertised. ? One final note, in the ongoing Jared Jordan debate, I pulled his numbers as well. Close your eyes Jordan fans: HT. (w/o shoes) HT. (w/shoes) WEIGHT WINGSPAN REACH 6-0 6-1? 183 6-0 7-10 NO STEP VERT. MAX VERTICAL BENCH PRESS LANE AGILITY SPRINT 14.5 28.5 6 11.02 3.39 Actually this isn't terrible. No, he can't jump, but his lane agility drills were better than Conley, Stuckey, Crittenton, Zabian Dowdell and Taurean Green and on par with Law. His 3/4 court sprint was a 10th of second behind most of the competition however. I wonder if this will change the minds of all the GMs who said Jordan wasn't quick enough to play in the pros. His numbers are virtually identical to the Net's Marcus Williams from last year's combine. Considering that Williams was a first round pick and productive this year, is Jordan really that far off? ? Here's a look back at results from previous years: 2006 | 2005 | 2004</div>
<span style="font-family:Arial">I find it funny that I can bench press more than every player listed in that post... </span>
Kevin Durant didn't even put up 185 on the bench press. After all this now no one can say Durant is a possibility for #1. Oden had a great showing here.
Some things I found intresting. Aaron Gray is 7'1" 3/4, so he's essentially 7'2" 270 pounds, wow. Spencer Hawes is 7'0" 3/4, so he's essentially 7'1" 244 pounds, wow. Joakim Noah is 7'0 223, thats a nice measurement. Greg Oden, after all that speculation is 7'0" 257...not bad....and that 9'4" standing reach, wow. Brandan Wrigh was 6'10 and only 200 pounds....yikes.
Durant's test was piss poor. He is severely lacking strength. The bench, while pathetic, doesn't worry me as much as his standing vertical, which is a pathetic 26 inches. When you have that big of a disparity between standing and running vertical jump, it means that you do not have strong legs, thus lacking standing vertical jump. All of these things will hurt him, especially defensively and rebound-wise.But, I'd still take him at #2 easily.
His bench isn't even important in terms of strength; he can always bulk up in the NBA, but it is more of a measure of work ethic. Yeah, teams were surprised when looking at the numbers, but they know the risk and are willing to work with him.
