Lillard's and Aldridge's relationship. (He will come back Portland one day)

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Harden - 220
PG - 220
Durant - 240
Lebron - 250
Embiid - 250
Greek - 240
Kawhi - 230
Dame - 200
Blake - 250
KAT - 250

that's 2350 pounds right there, well more than a ton. I'll bet there are at least 4 tons of players that could average 20 points

(do I really need green font for that?)

 

There is a lot of bias when it comes to Aldridge in this forum as can be seen by many of the posts in here. The guy has proven to be a very good player in the league and has b een recognized as such by many in the know.

 

That's 2. You said most.

 

CJ and Dame get 20 plus while being scouted and game planned. Hitting 20 pts a game several times a year and averaging it are 2 completely different things.

 

2P% - LMA 52.1% vs Aminu 51.6%
So if you replace all of Aminu's 2-pointers for the season with LMA, you would have to endure one whole less brick on the season.

3p% - LMA 25.8% vs Aminu 35.0%
But if you likewise replaced all of LMA 3-pointers for the season with Aminu, you would have 3 less bricks from Chief.

TS% - LMA 57.2% vs Aminu 57.1%
But yes, LMA bricks do look prettier.

TS%
Dame 59.1%
Aminu 57.1%
Nurk 56.9%
CJ 55.7%
Collins 55.1%
Harkless 54.4%

Aminu is the second most efficient of the Blazer starters this year.

 

Lol. Im not going to go through each teams' rosters, come on now. I cited two examples. Maybe there is a middle ground? Maybe not most but maybe not just a few either?

I'm just pointing out that I think most rosters have another guy or two on their teams that could do what their 1-3 options do, but don't have the opportunity.

 

There are currently 33 players averaging 20 or more out of about 450 players. That is barely over 1 per team.

 

What kind of defense does Aminu face vs LA? Aminu consistently gets wide open looks. He has his moments but....

 

there are 33 NBA players averaging at least 20 points; and another 18 who average over 17 points. That's more than 10% of the league and probably close to 15% of rotation players. Seems like a substantial proportion

 

Who is the better defender?

Code:

Defensive RPM
          Aminu     LMA
2019     +1.40    +0.29
2018     +2.37    +1.24
2017     +3.13    +1.05
2016     +1.62    +1.49
2015     +2.93    +0.36
-----------------------
Average  +2.29    +0.89
DBPM     +1.40    +0.50  (career)

 

Going from 17ppg to 20ppg would be a substantial gain.

 

Of course Aminu gets much better looks. LA is a better scorer obviously. No one is arguing that. The point is that Aminu does not hurt the offense. To the extent that you leave him open, his shots are more efficient than the typical shot the Blazer's get on offense. On defense Chief is much superior to LMA.

 

I like Aminu, but Aldridge is a superior player over all and it really isn't that close. You really need to do more game watching and less stat watching. Teams in the past were very successful using game watching (and still do) in evaluating talent. Stats are nice but just one of many tools to evaluate players.

 

And my position is there are even more, if other players were put into the same role/position as those 33 NBA players.

I'm thinking its closer to 20-25%. So not most( I didn't say most, I replied to someone else who did, though I agreed it was more than just a few)

Not even half, but still close to a quarter of the league I think could average 20ppg, if presented the right situation.

Now to be fair and turn this back to where it was, how many of those 25% are PF's? because the conversation was about getting someone other than LMA who could still average 20ppg, correct me if I'm wrong?

Now this is where @kjironman1 @CupWizier have a valid point and I will even expand on it. This is a guard dominated league, and without looking, i'm willing to bet over half of the 33 players currently averaging 20ppg+ are guards/wings. We aren't going to replace Aminu or choose a guard over LMA. So their point that there aren't many options out there, is in fact very valid.

Are there many players who can average 20ppg? I think there are more than some others do, but I think we can all agree that when it comes to picking someone other than LMA to bring in for the PF position, there are EXTREMELY few choices that average 20ppg.

Love?
Griffin?
LMA?

Who else is a realistic get for us that is a PF and averages 20ppg?

So of those three, who would provide the most improvement to the team?(obviously what we give up is a major factor), but I would say Griffin first, LMA second, Love 3rd.

All that's left is to figure out what would have to be given up for each for us to determine who is the unequivocal best choice for us to pursue.

Lastly, Ill put Aminu back in the mix because of contract size. As pointed out, he has been very efficient overall based on stats even though some think he is horrid and more think he is overrated. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but the contract size is what is the biggest factor for me when comparing him toe the other viable options listed above. Could we figure out how to sign him in the off season to a friendly 7-10 mill per? If so, then I think he is our best option over the others listed above, and we can focus more on upgrading the SF position, which is the other weak link of this team in my opinion. Lots of role player SF's, but not one stud. (can Jake become a stud? Would be the best option for the team if so because he have his rights and can retain him)

 

I agree with this. Stats never reveal circumstance either. For example. Randle currently Stats are off the hook. Bring back their full roster and he falls back to the mean. But looking at stats alone makes him look like a superstar right now.
Watching the games lets you know how he is being utilized in the game when the stats do not.

 

Preferably one that can score efficiently and give more spacing. Of those three you mentioned, Love and Griffin can shoot the 3 pretty well.

 

No doubt LaMarcus has had a really good career and is probably even a fringe Hall-of-Famer. If he played out his current contract then he'd be 36 by the time he had a chance to come back here. Chances are he'd have some deterioration of skills by that time.

 

I agree with both. Based on our constructed team, A PF who has a 3pt would be more valuable than a mid range inside game. We now have the inside game with Nurk, Collins and Kanter. (unless they are used in acquisition of the need).

With that said, Love is a better 3pt shooter than Griffin but I would still want Griffin because he has a much better overall game and though he isn't known as an elite defender, compared to Love, he is.

So with process of elimination( and with on "X" factor; cost) It does seem that Griffin is the guy. Not LMA

But @CupWizier and @kjironman1 are correct. For us, and our needs.... there are EXTREMELY few players we could bring in other than LMA that could prodsuce the numbers LMA has.

Options are limited for sure, which make the cost increase. Supply and demand.

Man.. Now im depressed again. When we deduce things like this it always seems to be, okay.... this is what we need.... and its a slim to no chance of us getting that need.

Fuck all yall for making me walk through this. lol.

 

And that is why i suggested it would be best to trade for him in the off season and then determine what his value is after his contract runs out. If he wants to much then let him walk. BG is the better player right now but he makes over 10 mil more a year and for one more year longer plus he has a lengthy injury history to factor in along withe cost to acquire him compared to Aldridge.

 

Yeah, I watch all the games too, so that was an inaccurate observation on your part. I'd rather have Aminu, all things considered. Teams have made huge errors evaluating talent with their eyes (ET, Meyers Leonard). It's a useful tool, yes, but is also prone to error. Of course if you had to make a team of five Aminu's vs five LMA's you would choose LMA and it wouldn't be close. But that's not how it works. There is only one basketball on the floor. On offense, we already have one superstar creator in Dame, another big offensive threat in CJ, and good facilitator in Nurk. Adding LMA and you just have another player who needs the ball. He is not going to add much marginal value, if any, over those three offensive threats. Combined, they create enough offense that Harkless and Aminu's "clean up" is sufficient when teams over-focus on those three. On the flip side, there are 100 defensive possessions and on every one of those Chief is simply better than LMA.