<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 8 2007, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, we're not saying thinking that a girl is pretty, or hot or anything is wrong. But sitting there and thinking about sexual stuff you want to do to her, or fantaszing about her while masturbating is wrong.</div> You walk down the street, you see a beautiful girl. You see her ass, you're telling me it's wrong to even think about that? Give me a break. Everybody in the entire world has done it, and it's impossible to stop. It's a reaction. People that try to play that off as wrong-doing are ridiculous. Those fools can keep telling themselves/others that, but they know the truth. It's a normal reaction, like if someone taps your back you look. You see a blonde bombshell, you are likely to think about her in a sexual way whether some book tells you you should or not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 7 2007, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It just bugs me that they call normal bodily reactions "sins." Give me a break. You see a beautiful girl, you have thoughts... "OH MY GOD. SIN! FORGIVE ME!" It's fine to be religious, it's fine to believe in something, but things like that... come on.</div>Yeah but you don't get it. Everybody does something wrong every once in a while no matter how good you are. Just because it's natural doesn't make what you did right. Like I said your not expected to be perfect and never sin because no one can help it. Your just supposed to use this stuff for good morals and try to use them to live a better life. Like I said earlier there's nothing wrong with that.
No, it never says that. It teaches to respect women and their body. The whole respect thing ties into lust. Obviously some of yall are somewhat ignorant on the topic..to think that the Bible says rape is better than masturbation is really sad. If you want to prove religion wrong or doubt it, you should atleast look at both side...that means atheism and the Bible. You cant just try to contridict the Bible cause youve probably never read it for yourself, otherwise you wouldnt be so ignorant on this matter.And people do sin everyday as Iversonfan has stated, but if its a sin, its a sin. But im not going to get any further into this cause yall just wont understand cause yall will never try and understand. :focus:
Just because it is a sin doesn't mean you're not expected to do it. If you really have Jesus in your heart, you know what is right and not right, and you try your hardest to refrain from doing it. If you do it, you have guilt in your heart, so you pray for forgiveness. At the same time, that doesn't mean you can go kill someone, then ask for forgiveness, and have a ticket to heaven.
I do understand what it means, and I don't care if I have read it or not... the point is that it's ridiculous to even try to say stuff like that is "wrong."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 7 2007, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You walk down the street, you see a beautiful girl. You see her ass, you're telling me it's wrong to even think about that? Give me a break. Everybody in the entire world has done it, and it's impossible to stop. It's a reaction. People that try to play that off as wrong-doing are ridiculous. Those fools can keep telling themselves/others that, but they know the truth. It's a normal reaction, like if someone taps your back you look. You see a blonde bombshell, you are likely to think about her in a sexual way whether some book tells you you should or not.</div>It's fine when you see it, but when you start thinking "I would tap that...I want to hit that" you know stuff like that, it's wrong to think about it like that. I know everyone does. You keep bringing that up...we know everyone thinks about it once in a while, but that doesn't make it right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 7 2007, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Obviously some of yall are somewhat ignorant on the topic..to think that the Bible says rape is better than masturbation is really sad. If you want to prove religion wrong or doubt it, you should atleast look at both side...that means atheism and the Bible. You cant just try to contridict the Bible cause youve probably never read it for yourself, otherwise you wouldnt be so ignorant on this matter.</div>You're the one who said the Bible says that sexing a whore is better than letting it hit the ground. Where does it say that?
It doesn't say that that is good to do. It says you should only have sex with the one you are going to be with for the rest of your life, aka your wife.
You guys are ridiculous. I am with CB32. There are so many times when I see a fine girl and think to myself...."I'd F*ck the sh*t out of her" It's just natural. I understand you have to respect a woman and all. That's fine, it's not like I'm telling "I'd F*ck the sh*t out of you" to her face. That indeed would be disrespectful. But to say having thoughts or fantasies about women is wrong/immortal is idiotic. Your thoughts are your thoughts, unless the girl is a mind-reader, it really shouldn't matter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 8 2007, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are ridiculous. I am with CB32. There are so many times when I see a fine girl and think to myself...."I'd F*ck the sh*t out of her" It's just natural. I understand you have to respect a woman and all. That's fine, it's not like I'm telling "I'd F*ck the sh*t out of you" to her face. That indeed would be disrespectful. But to say having thoughts or fantasies about women is wrong/immortal is idiotic.</div>Well, according to the Bible, it is wrong. Just because people do it doesn't mean it isn't wrong. I do it all the time. If I see a hot girl, I'm all over her. But the point is, it's Biblicly immoral. That's all I'm trying to say. So calling us ridiculous for trying to say that is ridiculous to me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 8 2007, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, according to the Bible, it is wrong.</div> That's my problem right there. You base your own "opinions" off what that book tells you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 8 2007, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's my problem right there. You base your own "opinions" off what that book tells you.</div>I never said these were my opinions. My opnions of right and wrong do come from the Bible, but not directly. Isn't a christian supposed to live his life like Jesus? Isn't a christian supposed to follow the Bible? Yes. So, why not try your best to mind the Bible, because in the end, it's steering you the right direction. I live the way I feel comfortable living and the way I feel I was meant to live. No matter if you think the Bible is right or wrong right now in your life, one day down the road, you will come to realize just as the Word says, "Every knee will bow, and every tounge confess..."I'm done with this discussion though. I've done my part in trying to sway you guys, but you'll believe what you want to believe. :happy0144:
Well, looks like I set off a nice little religous debate when all I wanted to do was talk aout wanking.By the way, I've done my bit to prevent cancer for the day, the missus helped me a little too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 8 2007, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's my problem right there. You base your own "opinions" off what that book tells you.</div>The Bible says that the Bible is completely true. Therefore, you are an idiot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 8 2007, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't a christian supposed to live his life like Jesus? Isn't a christian supposed to follow the Bible? Yes.</div>So I take it you will take to wandering around the desert preaching to people?The problem with following the bible is that its pretty impossible. It used to be that everything was taken as literal and people took things as fact. When it became obvious that all the stories in the bible couldn't be real people began changing what parts you had to follow and what parts you didn't. I don't think many christians would support stoning anymore would they?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 8 2007, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are ridiculous. I am with CB32. There are so many times when I see a fine girl and think to myself...."I'd F*ck the sh*t out of her" It's just natural. I understand you have to respect a woman and all. That's fine, it's not like I'm telling "I'd F*ck the sh*t out of you" to her face. That indeed would be disrespectful. But to say having thoughts or fantasies about women is wrong/immortal is idiotic. Your thoughts are your thoughts, unless the girl is a mind-reader, it really shouldn't matter.</div>The devil can put thoughts into your mind. He can't read your mind, but he can put thoughts into it that are wrong.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So I take it you will take to wandering around the desert preaching to people?The problem with following the bible is that its pretty impossible. It used to be that everything was taken as literal and people took things as fact. When it became obvious that all the stories in the bible couldn't be real people began changing what parts you had to follow and what parts you didn't. I don't think many christians would support stoning anymore would they?</div>It doesn't say anything in the bible that we should be stoning people today. As a Christian, I take the bible for what it says right on the page. Granted, some of the stuff are parables or figurative language used to describe something else, but I have to take it for what it says right there, because if I try to change the bible or take away from the bible...man something bad is going to happen.Revelation 22:18, 19 -- I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.Colossians 3:5 -- Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.Proverbs 6:25 -- Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Jun 8 2007, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't say anything in the bible that we should be stoning people today.</div>Well it certainly doesn't say that its immoral or wrong. It doesn't say you are allowed to stone people up until 1756 but after that you must stop does it?Anyway, I don't actually care. Lets talk about things you do behind closed doors. Much more interesting.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 8 2007, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Bible says that the Bible is completely true. Therefore, you are an idiot.</div> And yeah, somebody really needs to revive this thread. It's amazing how quickly we went from talking about cum swallowing to the Bible, huh?
