ESPN.com<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's the increasing volume on rumblings that Odom doesn't want to go to Indiana.He might not have a choice, obviously, with the Lakers believed to be desperate to make some sort of statement trade to appease Bryant before the June 28 draft.But sources close to Odom indicate the 27-year-old would be "quite unhappy" if he's sent to the Pacers in an O'Neal deal ? and that it would take a three-year contract extension from the Pacers (or any team that makes a move for him) to get Odom "on board" with a trade. No word yet on how that might factor into Indy's decision making</div>Link
I don't want to trade Odom either. I love the guy. He's one of the few players on the team who has heart, he's delivered in the playoffs each of the last two seasons, and he manned up this season and played through his shoulder injury when we needed him. But he just doesn't really blend well with Kobe. He has to have the ball in his hands to be successful, and he's not the kind of post presence inside that Kobe really plays well with. So if getting rid of him means bringing in someone like Jermaine O'neal, that works out very well.
What's Odoms contract look like? I was thinking maybe he could do the trade then opt out of his contract whenever the time comes that he can do that and return to the Lakers. If he really likes it there as it seems he doesn I think he would accept lesser money.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 7 2007, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>good, I don't want odom either</div>tell us why..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brando @ Jun 7 2007, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>tell us why..</div>because the Pacers are going to get ripped off in whatever JO trade they do
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kobebryant_24OWNEDME @ Jun 7 2007, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>because the Pacers are going to get ripped off in whatever JO trade they do</div>If we end up trading Odom AND Bynum. I can't help but feel like we are the ones getting ripped off. First off, Odom is an all-star calibur player whose had bad luck with injuries as a Laker. Then add in a guy like Bynum, who is only starting to come into his own. If you look at stats, Bynum has roughly the same statistics as KG had at the same age of 19. I'm not saying he will be as good a player as KG but if this is indeed the trade that is going to happen(which is what it sounds like it would be) then I feel like we are getting ripped off more than the Pacers. Especially if we end up throwing in another 1st rounder in another possible package and just getting Tinsley...ew. JO is just as injury prone as Lamar, but of course is a great player. Either way, Lakers management has to make a deal like this more to please Kobe than anything. We'll see what happens.
It's not impossible for something like that to happen you know? Remember when Gary Payton was traded from Boston to Atlanta for A Walk and then he got released and resigned with them. If that could happen so can this.
F*ck that, the Lakers shouldn't trade away a very valuable piece of the team just to try and please their fastidious superstar. Kobe needs to man the F*ck up and stop the bi*ch-fit. The Lakers aren't even that bad.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Jun 9 2007, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>F*ck that, the Lakers shouldn't trade away a very valuable piece of the team just to try and please their fastidious superstar. Kobe needs to man the F*ck up and stop the bi*ch-fit. The Lakers aren't even that bad.</div>Finally, someone who is on my side with this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Jun 9 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>F*ck that, the Lakers shouldn't trade away a very valuable piece of the team just to try and please their fastidious superstar. Kobe needs to man the F*ck up and stop the bi*ch-fit. The Lakers aren't even that bad.</div>Only problem with that is Kobe won't stop. If they don't try to please Kobe, he will demand a trade. When Kobe leaves, many Laker fans leave and the Lakers lose a lot of money. It's in their best interest to baby Kobe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Jun 9 2007, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>F*ck that, the Lakers shouldn't trade away a very valuable piece of the team just to try and please their fastidious superstar. Kobe needs to man the F*ck up and stop the bi*ch-fit. The Lakers aren't even that bad.</div>I think people are overreacting to their performance this season. If they hadn't had an amazing amount of injuries they were a 50 win team that could have gotten to the second round (or WCF if the went against the Warriors). If Bynum and Farmar can improve the way they have before and the way they should this summer, coupled with Mihm's return, the Lakers could be a dangerous team next year. But they won't be a championship team for a while, and that's all Kobe wants. I don't think they need to overhaul their whole roster like Kobe wants them to do. If they could trade for a starter or get someone who could make an impact with the MLE, they could be a contender next season.
Trading lamar and bynum for JO doesn't make the lakers a contender. Lateral move. If were going to blow up the team, atlease get a team that can contend. Or at the very least, don't part with both, just one.Lakers aren't that bad if you compare them to the sonics, clippers, timberwolves etc. But we aren't even close to contending. That sucks because in a couple of years, the portland trail blazers will be ready and when they are ready, we aren't getting out of the west. If we are going to win, it has to be now. The league is at it's weakeast, you had the utah jazz who were pwned this season in the WCF. Honestly, I'd part with bynum before odom. Trade bynum and kwame for JO, Get artest, get a real pg and the lakers contend. All 4, bryant/artest/odom/ are all in their primes. They can contend for another 4-5 seasons.Infact, looking at that team, wow. All 4 can play down low. 3 of them when they want to are some of the best defenders in the league. JO's a shotblocker. Get a defensive pg who can defense and you have the best defensive ball club in the league. Now someone convince Jerry buss to pull that off and convince PJ to coach defense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Jun 9 2007, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>F*ck that, the Lakers shouldn't trade away a very valuable piece of the team just to try and please their fastidious superstar. Kobe needs to man the F*ck up and stop the bi*ch-fit. The Lakers aren't even that bad.</div>How is Kobe 'bi*chfitting'? The Lakers have no desire to win and have wasted 3 years of his prime. When finally a player comes out and says he wants to win, you call him selfish? He is the best player in this league who can dominate on both ends of the court. He is the only player that can shut u down on offense and defense when he has to. kobe deserves better than what he is gettin in LA. The Laker front office made promises to Kobe about trying to win during his prime, they lied through their teeth. Bynum is years away. Odom only has a few years left. Walton, Smush, Farmar are serviceable parts at best. There is no way for anyone to believe that the Lakers can catch the Suns, Mavericks, Spurs over the next 4 seasons.