Oh Crap! This article directly contradicts what I projected earlier in a post. I assumed that ocean level at the equator had already reached the point being in equilibrium with the rotational force and the force of gravity. If this is not true then it can and will go higher. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scie...ill-spike-sea-levels-at-the-equator-24739579/ Perhaps there is not enough water in the basin to reach that point yet. Oh well, one should not build below the high water mark. Corrections needed.
When I first read about the ocean levels being high at the equator, the article was not so accurate. The 21 KM difference in the equator vs the Poles is not just ocean, it is the whole damn planet. Heck, 21 km is more than the deepest part of the ocean. Probably my own fault as I was seeking info on the Rotational affect on the Ocean, but got the effect on the Planet. This image shows the earth and the resulting shape from the centrifugal force of rotation as constrained by gravity. Since all the crust of the earth, is floating on a sea of molten magma, it no doubt has reach it maximum bulge at the equator. It does appear to bulge and diminish like a COS curve between latitude 0 and 90. Now the info I wanted but can not find is the shape the Ocean as it is affected on the surface of our planet by the centrifugally force. It seems to me that the bulge will not increase more after it reaches the maximum diameter at the equator once the centrifugal force is equal to the gravity at the surface, If the full Cos shape has been formed. Too little water and the maximum can't be reached, too much and it drawn to the greater gravity at less elevation. In the past 19000 years, they say the Sea level has risen about 130 meters. I don't know if that is world wide or just where they took measurements. You can't tell from these as near as I can deduce. Two places tell part of the story, the Bering Strait and the Sunda Shelf and specifically the Straits of Malacca, right on the equator. These straits were flooded in the last 10 thousand years, so it seem the forces of gravity and rotation were not yet equal at the equator thus the covering of Malacca. But it is only 24 meter deep at Singapore, Is this the top? has the full Cos shape of the earth's Sea level been filed? Heck, I don't know, can't find a thing here, just the prediction above, about places on the equator or near that will flood. It seems to me that the rotating earth working daily on it's seas, looks like a broken centrifugal pump. Part of the housing is missing, and it doesn't pump with much of a head, but it does move water. Actually perhaps it is two pumps, one centrifugal, and a thermal pump working as a team. Just a hint from this article. "Upwelling also takes place along the Equator. Winds blow the surface water north and south. This leaves a void that deep water can upwell into. The nutrients rise to the surface and support a great deal of life in the equatorial oceans." See the Current flow chart. https://www.ck12.org/earth-science/deep-currents/lesson/Deep-Ocean-Currents-MS-ES/ The waters over the Bering Strait are much deeper than over the Strait of Malacca but why isn't it deeper at Malacca unless the centrifugal force has met it's match and can go no higher? Like the centrifugal pump that has intake water but can pump the head no higher. If it could pump higher and the intake were available, then it would indeed rise. Where is the intake? The Bering strait, just like a the centrifugal pump, the intake is at the axis of rotation (close). But the waters of this Strait run the wrong way, they seek the low point drawn by gravity. https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-Earth-bulge-around-the-equator
Well, the Sun still heats the tropical seas, the earth still rotates, but the pump is losing efficiency. See the Scientist seek the reason(s). Check out AMOC, Atlantic meridional overturning circulation. The flow in all thermal expansion systems slow when the water heats up. As long as there is cool water in, then you can get hot water out, the less difference the slower it becomes. Ha! Is there anyone here that has built a fire in the kitchen range to heat hot water via the heating coils in the range, so you could take a bath?. You can tell with a bare hand, how far down the tank the hot water has accumulated, so you know when your good to go. Northern Ice 20,000 years ago. Sea level was 130 meters less 19000 years ago the big melt was on 8000 - 9000 years ago the Bering and Malacca Strait where beginning to be cover by the Seas. Sea level had to rise 83 meter to begin conversion of the Bering Strait, and 106 meter at Malacca. Northern What is left of the Ice sheets today. Still have sea Ice in varying amounts. I even can see it is building via the Canadian Ice watch facilities. Southern Antarctica and the Great Southern Ocean. I love this view of the Earth. Seeing the Great Southern Ocean makes the others seem as mere bays. You all might want to weigh in now. Do you see variance in views by Scientist? Can you get a grasp of the architecture, if not the nitty gritty Science? Then there is the big question, you all will need to answer up with, by your votes. Can you change what began by giving up your heat, your ride, perhaps your job by not using fuel that you began using way way after the oceans began to rise? It seems sayings like, The horses are already gone, or the Cats are out of the bag, are appropriate at this point. Hadn't we better get on with beginning to deal with water shortages? After all the mountain Glaciers are gone too, or soon. But Oh! Are we going to need fuel, when this engine recycles! I don't know when. Is anyone working on an answer? I can't find them.
This is the most important issue of all in my view. China has rapidly turned into a desert and had to adapt on the fly. I have water..good water under my property..spring fed streams..it's my idea of true wealth
I have the best water here in Bandon that I have had anywhere. A 60 foot well drilled into a pea gravel seam over sold rock. It rises about 40 ' in the well, great drinking water. I go to the trouble of hauling it to the boat to fill my tanks. Yep, I agree, China will be the first to experience big trouble or catastrophic trouble from water shortages. India next. I sort of think China knows this too. They have now Dammed every river running through China, or soon will. But the trouble will hit hard when the Mountain Glaciers are no more. We ought to expand the hell out of the Dams on the Missouri River System, and the Snake too. California should get at it also.
Just an observation. According to the read statistics for this thread, it has been read 68 times since I posted the last of the main parts of the subject. Reading but not commenting. Is this not strange for S2?
Maruzel. Nobody is engaged in this thread because while arguing politics is usually just varying opinions on things...arguing science and climate change causes with people is a waste of time. Enough scientists have flatly stated the reasons behind climate change and what can be done to help. So anyway. Carry on posting to yourself.
Yes that will do it. Sort of like. Make it so. "Enough scientists have flatly stated" "Sea level started rising in the late 1800s" ???
So whats your point? I said that scientists have stated why its happening AND what we can do to help. Whether it be fossil fuels, gas, or coal in your quote, we can do things to curb the use of those things. So whats the controversy?
Well I guess you missed the disagreements. You might want to read some of the many links I supplied above, But a big one is the assertion that the seas started rising in the late 1800s due to men using fuels. Yet a graph by NOAA shows the reality. I would say the rate of rise of the sea is declining. And it did way before men were burning petroleum. And the rate is declining even more since we have accurate Satellite measuring now. Al though I question they are measuring the right places on earth to get what they seek, but never mind this.. It is declining, down to maybe 2mm a year now. But yet they predict the seas to rise .6 to 4.3 feet by year 2100. See the concluding remarks by Noaa. Their own presentation data does not support the panic.
