I like Gerald Green alot as a player, and think he has a very bright future ahead of him. I really think that in the future he can be a better player than Lebron James.
You really think Green will be better than James? He's not even close to James as far as talent level right now, and James still has many more years to grow even more. Green isn't the type of guy who is going to be able to lead his team. I don't think he'll be able to take over games, especially the way LeBron does. In terms of athelticism, you could have a point, but throw in every other aspect of the game, Green doesn't even come close. And as Green develops, LeBron should continue to develop.
Yeah uh..im not sure of his passwords been stolen who hes effing drunk, but Valo isnt one to 1)make a topic about a Boston player 2)only explain in 2 sentences 3)make stupid predictions...for example "Green will be better than LeBron".
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 10 2007, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah uh..im not sure of his passwords been stolen who hes effing drunk, but Valo isnt one to 1)make a topic about a Boston player 2)only explain in 2 sentences 3)make stupid predictions...for example "Green will be better than LeBron".</div>That's exactly what I was thinking. I haven't been here long, but in the time I have, I haven't seen any posts this short by Valo. And, I really wouldn't expect him to make a post with this comparison.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 10 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You really think Green will be better than James? He's not even close to James as far as talent level right now, and James still has many more years to grow even more. Green isn't the type of guy who is going to be able to lead his team. I don't think he'll be able to take over games, especially the way LeBron does. In terms of athelticism, you could have a point, but throw in every other aspect of the game, Green doesn't even come close. And as Green develops, LeBron should continue to develop.</div>I beg to differ about James being far ahead talent wise right now, I do believe as a player he is close talent wise to where Lebron James is at right now. That is having two less years of experience so far, as well as playing for a coach that really doesn't know what he is doing in the form of subsitutions and how to play his players. Gerald Green is an awesome scorer, a better scorer than Lebron James is, and will continue to be in the future when he tunes his game even more. He has a much better shot on him, can play from deep, play from mid range, and attack the basket well. He isn't limited to what he can, and can't do with his scoring, like Lebron James is. Your seeing it now with the Spurs, when he isn't getting to the rim as much, and is getting trapped off of picks so Lebron has to settle for jumpers Lebron can not score. I don't believe his jump shot will ever get good enough to stop that from happening. When he isn't scoring, his team is usually loosing. That is different from Gerald Green, who is not limited like that, and won't be in the future. He can come off of screens and hit the jump shot, or drive to the rim so getting trapped like that won't hurt his scoring or his teams scoring in the future. As well as he can use his athleticism to score, just like Lebron James can. He has the speed to get to the rim quickly off of the dribble, or off of movement. He can also jump just as high to receive lobs, and go up with great dunks. Lebron also does not like to move without the ball, which is another area that Green will be able to help his teams with in the futre. Green moves without the ball, and when your just standing there with the ball, that means your man isn't moving either, which is making it harder for him to get open as a scorer. Green won't have that problem, and doesn't have that problem. As for not taking over a game as well, I beg to differ. He is already showing that he can take over a game, and shoulder the scoring load, much in the same way Tracy Mcgrady can take over a game and shoulder the scoring load. He can go off with a major scoring spurt at any given time, when his team needs someone to score. Just look at games like the Cleveland game where he went off for 21 points in 19 minutes, or the Bucks game where he went off for 21 points in like 22 minutes, including 16 points in the second quarter of that game alone, with no turnovers and no mistakes. He definately has the ability, and the will to take over a game with his scoring in much the same way that Mcgrady does, which is unlike Lebron. Sometimes Lebron is unwilling to take over a game with his scoring, and more willing to pass the balle off and rely on his teamates for scoring. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iFR3SHi @ Jun 10 2007, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can see him being a 24ppg type scorer. He still has years. But nowhere near LeBron</div>I think that we could easily see Gerald turn into the same type scorer that Tracy Mcgrady is, which is a better scorer than Lebron James is. He has the same playing style, using his shot to set up his drive to the basket, in much the same way Mcgrady does. He has great athleticism to get to the rim, like Mcgrady had in Orlando. If you look at Mcgrady and Green's second years in the NBA right out of high school, they have alot of similarities. They both played around 22 minutes per game, and wasn't used right by their coaches. They both shot pretty low field goal percentages. However, Green averaged one more point per game scoring, in the same amount of playing time, with a higher 3 point field goal percentage. I definately do not see Green as just as 24 point per game scorer, I see him as the main option being to be a 30 point per game scorer easily and able to push teams through a season just like Mcgrady was able to do.
I don't know whether to take you seriously or not, because I really don't agree with most of what you said...Right now, I'm just not going to say anything, because I'm a little confused. Maybe because I have no idea who this HighFly guy is...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 10 2007, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe because I have no idea who this HighFly guy is...</div>http://www.bballworld.us/forum/index.php?showtopic=31312
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 11 2007, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know whether to take you seriously or not, because I really don't agree with most of what you said...Right now, I'm just not going to say anything, because I'm a little confused. Maybe because I have no idea who this HighFly guy is...</div>Take it seriously, I really want to see what you say back.
To tell you the truth, im sure everybody is a little too lazy to prove something EVERYBODY agrees on and is obvious.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 10 2007, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Take it seriously, I really want to see what you say back.</div>Do you seriously want to debate this even though I highly doubt you actually belive this? If so I guess I'll debate this with you, but if your just trying to prove a point to some of the members here I'm not gonna waste my time.
Actually...youve done it again Valo. Youve convinced me, Green will be better than LeBron..wish he wouldve dropped one more pick to Memphis.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 11 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you seriously want to debate this even though I highly doubt you actually belive this? If so I guess I'll debate this with you, but if your just trying to prove a point to some of the members here I'm not gonna waste my time.</div>I really want to debate it, lets see what everyone's got.
its High54life. f*cking dick. I viewed his profile and he has been waiting for posts in his "Gearld Green Commercial." What a no life sh*t head it prob took him a while to hack his pw. High5 hop off GG5's dick.Tony or Combs ban this guy and tell the REAL valo to change his pw.
For Valo's request...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 11 2007, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gerald Green is an awesome scorer, a better scorer than Lebron James is, and will continue to be in the future when he tunes his game even more. He has a much better shot on him, can play from deep, play from mid range, and attack the basket well. He isn't limited to what he can, and can't do with his scoring, like Lebron James is. Your seeing it now with the Spurs, when he isn't getting to the rim as much, and is getting trapped off of picks so Lebron has to settle for jumpers Lebron can not score. I don't believe his jump shot will ever get good enough to stop that from happening. When he isn't scoring, his team is usually loosing. That is different from Gerald Green, who is not limited like that, and won't be in the future. He can come off of screens and hit the jump shot, or drive to the rim so getting trapped like that won't hurt his scoring or his teams scoring in the future. As well as he can use his athleticism to score, just like Lebron James can. He has the speed to get to the rim quickly off of the dribble, or off of movement. He can also jump just as high to receive lobs, and go up with great dunks.</div>LeBron is not a limited scorer by any means. He can shoot it from anywhere on the court, though some places less consistently. 90% of the time he is able to get to the basket and either get fouled and/or make the shot. He drives stronger than any other player I've ever watch and he outpowers his defender, which is something Green will never be able to do. The times he can't drive it, he does shoot it, and can make it. Sure, LeBron is struggling against the Spurs defense, but any player in the league would stuggle against this best defense in the NBA if they had a week to figure out ways. He's ranked 3rd in the playoffs in points in the paint. LeBron takes over games, while Green doesn't. He can take over games with his jumpshot, like you saw against the Pistons. LeBron doesn't have to score to take over games though. He is an excellent passer and excellent rebounder. Green lacks the skills, experience, and confidence to take over games like LeBron does. And while Green gains all of those attributes, LeBron's will be growing. :dribble: That's what I would have said...
Did some more. Isnt Valo in like the army or something? I saw his posts he usually posts around 5AM to 10AM. Im guessing he has to get up or something at 5 and would not be staying on at this time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 11 2007, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For Valo's request...LeBron is not a limited scorer by any means. He can shoot it from anywhere on the court, though some places less consistently. 90% of the time he is able to get to the basket and either get fouled and/or make the shot. He drives stronger than any other player I've ever watch and he outpowers his defender, which is something Green will never be able to do. The times he can't drive it, he does shoot it, and can make it. Sure, LeBron is struggling against the Spurs defense, but any player in the league would stuggle against this best defense in the NBA if they had a week to figure out ways. He's ranked 3rd in the playoffs in points in the paint. LeBron takes over games, while Green doesn't. He can take over games with his jumpshot, like you saw against the Pistons. LeBron doesn't have to score to take over games though. He is an excellent passer and excellent rebounder. Green lacks the skills, experience, and confidence to take over games like LeBron does. And while Green gains all of those attributes, LeBron's will be growing. :dribble: That's what I would have said...</div>He is a limited scorer, he really can't score from anywhere on the court consistenly except right next to the basket. He doesn't have a consistent three point shot, he doesn't utilize or convert on mid range shots. He struggles when James can not get to the basket and shot free throws. It is definately not 90 percent of the time that he gets to the rim, or shoots free throws. If he did, his field goal percentage would be much higher than it has beent this season, as well as he would have shot many more free throws per game over the season considering he took 20 shots a game, and went to the free throw line only 9 times a game. Considering if you miss you get 2 free throws each time, that's not a whole lot shots where he was fouled.This isn't the first team to have good luck against James trying that method of playing defense on Lebron James. He had one game where he came out and scored like that against the Pistons, but minus that game he really didn't do as well against the pistons defense. Look at the first two games of the series where he struggled and the Pistons played the same type of defense. He struggled some against the Nets, when they played the same type of defense. If he isn't able to get to the rim, he has a hard time scoring. This is different from Gerald Green who can score from everywhere on the court, and won't be limited off of a trap like that. As for taking over a game, he has shown many times this season to have no confidence problem to take over a game. He is willing to shoot and drive and score to take over when he can. He had games where he had great scoring outbursts. His problem is having a coach that played favorites, like Doc Rivers. Gerald Green was a better scorer and man to man defender when he got a chance, than Wally but got way less minutes for no reason. In the future he will get to a situation much like Mcgrady had in Orlando, where Gerald Green is the man, and can play for longer and more consistent minutes. We will see him get to score consistently like that, but right now it's a coaches error. He has shown to be able to go off and take over games.Your right, rebounding and Passing he isn't there yet, but scoring he is better, athleticism he is on the same level, moving without the ball he is better. Lets face it, neither one of them are very good on defense so we don't have to worry about that. I think Gerald can play one on one defense just as well as what Lebron James can.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 11 2007, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He is a limited scorer, he really can't score from anywhere on the court consistenly except right next to the basket. He doesn't have a consistent three point shot, he doesn't utilize or convert on mid range shots. He struggles when James can not get to the basket and shot free throws. It is definately not 90 percent of the time that he gets to the rim, or shoots free throws. If he did, his field goal percentage would be much higher than it has beent this season, as well as he would have shot many more free throws per game over the season considering he took 20 shots a game, and went to the free throw line only 9 times a game. Considering if you miss you get 2 free throws each time, that's not a whole lot shots where he was fouled.</div>Ok, I was exaggerating a little with 90%, but I'll stand by the rest of my post.
