Politics Should 11-year-old girls have to bear their rapists' babies? Ohio says yes.

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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    This law in Ohio is bullshit.

    Reading this thread further proves that some posters should be forever on ignore.
    Simply because they're so dogmatic in their ideology they just want to hear themselves speak.
     
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    crandc Well-Known Member

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    I get that you are uncomfortable with late term abortion. But please remember this is only about 2% of all abortions. Women do not have abortions at 8 months because they are tired of being pregnant, or have a little headache, or can't fit into prom dresses, all of which were actually said by male legislators. For the most part these were wanted pregnancies, parents chose names, furnished nurseries, then something went horribly wrong. Either a medical crisis for the woman or severe fetal defect, many of which are simply not visible until 3rd trimester. I'm not talking near-sighted or even Down Syndrome. Actual cases include:

    Brain growing outside skull
    No brain at all
    No kidneys or heart valves
    A rare condition where internal organs atrophy and die one after another. The woman who testified about this is a conservative Republican evangelical Christian who had attended anti-abortion rallies with her family. She asked if she could carry to term even if the child was stillborn because of her opposition to abortion. She was told fetus had stiffened in transverse position and waiting while it grew larger could kill her. She asked it be treated with respect. She testified she was put under anesthesia and fetal heart stopped; after which it was removed intact. She described how externally the child looked normal, and how she and her husband held her for hours, singing and praying, until she had to return her for burial. This was not a callous woman making a frivolous decision.
    Another case the lungs developed normally but then ended. No trachea, no nasopharyngeal opening. No way to breathe.
    A woman discovered the fetus lacked enzyme that allows joints to move. The child would be a solid block of bone. Fed through a tube, breathing with a tube, excreting through a tube, never moving, and would die young when heart & lungs grew but ribcage could not expand.

    These are just a few examples.

    Sometimes rape victims, especially very young ones, can't wrap their heads around what happened, they are in denial, telling themselves they missed periods due to stress, until maybe 6 months when they just have to face they are pregnant from rape. South Carolina is also considering outlawing all abortion. A female Republican legislator who was herself raped called for rape exemption, saying rapists are not fathers. She was derided and is getting threats. In Michigan a Democratic legislator who pleaded for a rape exemption described being raped and pregnant as a teen and having an abortion. Male legislators literally were laughing while she spoke.

    Also, anti-abortion laws often delay voluntary abortions. In elective abortions the woman wants to do it as early as possible, but due to clinic closing, may have to travel hundreds of miles. Arrange time off and childcare (the majority of women getting abortions already have at least one child). Then undergo medically unnecessary ultrasounds and pay for them, waiting period, sit through state mandated factually inaccurate anti-abortion "counseling", another waiting period - sometimes they are 4 or 5 months along by the time they finish jumping through hoops.

    That was when anti-woman legislators just wanted to make abortion as difficult, painful, and expensive as possible. Now their position is simply "lock her up".
     
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    Heres the short version.

    Men are evil.
    Signed Crandc.

    Wait. Is that mansplaining?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, that's more like manunjustifiedcontemptuousdismissing.

    It's not a good look.

    barfo
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    No, he isn't. He plays a character on this site, trying to get people wound up.
     
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    Is that right?
     
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    Texas state Senate passed a bill requiring women to carry dead fetuses to term. Dead fetuses. Dead tissue rots. It causes infection. Women die from sepsis when dead fetus rots. That is why it is medically necessary to remove a dead fetus.

    State Senate knows better.

    If the sluts hadn't insisted on having vaginas they wouldn't be in this situation. Their fault, obviously.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    This shit is what happens when corporations own politicians. The "right wingers" have to carve out their niche to get elected.

    Was there something about crossing state lines to get an abortion is illegal in this garbage? Yeah, maybe just remind them of the constitution once every so often.

    These "Republicans" are laughing all the way to the millions they are trying to make from what used to be public service.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm a bit unclear on the link you are trying to make between abortions and corporations. Please elaborate.

    barfo
     
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    Probably referring to the real reasons it's currently legal, in addition to it's original and still primary goal of culling the world's negroid population through eugenics.

    https://world.wng.org/content/a_16_billion_abortion_industry_boondoggle
    https://catholicexchange.com/new-study-“follows-the-money”-of-abortion
    https://www.lifenews.com/2017/11/13...has-a-history-of-exploiting-vulnerable-women/
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/28048/taxpayers-gave-15-billion-abortion-business-over-paul-bois
     
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    “…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants, African Americans and poor people.
     
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    I agree.
    But it's also not a good look to dismiss others simply because they won't 'fall in line'.
    Which is something that poster does constantly.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. So I shouldn't fall for the bait/troll.
    But I'm not perfect. Never claimed to be.
     
  14. EL PRESIDENTE

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    If one murders a pregant woman, is it one or two deaths?
     
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    your lawyer should be able to provide you with this answer ..you didn't waste your phone call?
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    MICHAEL COHEN IS MY LAWYER
     
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    OK,like you kick a pregnant woman and the "ZYGOTE" dies. Is that assault or murder?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Depends on how far along the pregnancy is.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Depends on what happens to the mother. If she dies it's murder.
     
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    Mother is unharmed, other than a bruise and slight pain.
     

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