<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CavsRules @ Jun 17 2007, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^ That a joke? The guy goes into the paint and gets a little bump he goes flying. The Refs are so stupid enough to fall for it so they call it a foul.</div>I personally believe his falling isn't an act, but I do believe flailing of arms and exaggerate contact is his way of forcing refs to clal the fouls. But it is smart and has helped him throughout his career, so I can't see it as a reason to take away from him.
I'm not taking anything away from him, but thats obviously how he gets many of his calls. He flops. But if it makes you happy.... "He does an outstanding job of acting."
Wade is pretty good at overacting and getting calls... I've seen him fall back without being touched after a jumpshot and getting a call, and that call against whatever team where he clearly traveled and they called a foul.
This topic is definitely wrong.2001 76ers are the worst finals team.Allen Iverson was a star, but besides him, you have Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, a mid-30 year old Dikembe Mutombo, Tyronne Hill, Theo Ratliff, Jumaine Jones, George Lynch and Toni Kukoc. It's beyond terrible. At least Lebron had Hughes, Big Z, Gooden, Boobie Gibson, and Donyell Marshall.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 16 2007, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, so you say LeBron isn't a top player because he doesn't have a ring, yet Garnett and Nash have never even made the Finals. LeBron is a top 5 player. You can make arguments to put Wade and Duncan ahead of him, but LeBron has surpassed Garnett and Nash IMO. He does a little bit of everything Nash and Garnett do. He's not a better passer than Nash, but he's still a great passer, and he's not as good of a rebounder as Garnett, but still a great rebounder. LeBron's scoring surpasses Nash and Garnett's though. He has better leadership skills than Garnett, and you can argue his leadership skills are better than Nash's when you look at who all Nash has been able to play with compared to LeBron. All in all, LeBron is no doubt a top 5 player.</div>When did I say LeBron isn't better because he doesn't have a ring? I just said Kobe had better success at age 22 with his titles. Yes, LeBron is overrated. Is he a top 5 player in the NBA? No. Is he going to be better then Kobe? Not even close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 17 2007, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This topic is definitely wrong.2001 76ers are the worst finals team.Allen Iverson was a star, but besides him, you have Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, a mid-30 year old Dikembe Mutombo, Tyronne Hill, Theo Ratliff, Jumaine Jones, George Lynch and Toni Kukoc. It's beyond terrible. At least Lebron had Hughes, Big Z, Gooden, Boobie Gibson, and Donyell Marshall.</div>Oh really? But the team in 2002, the Nets, ended up being swept by the Lakers, the 76ers at least beat the Lakers in overtime in game 1.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When did I say LeBron isn't better because he doesn't have a ring? I just said Kobe had better success at age 22 with his titles. Yes, LeBron is overrated. Is he a top 5 player in the NBA? No. Is he going to be better then Kobe? Not even close.</div>Kobe had more success because he had better teammates, better coaches, and a better offensive system to play in. Are you some kind of f*cking fortune teller? How would you know LeBron will never be better than Kobe, and I think he is a top 5 player in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When did I say LeBron isn't better because he doesn't have a ring? I just said Kobe had better success at age 22 with his titles. Yes, LeBron is overrated. Is he a top 5 player in the NBA? No. Is he going to be better then Kobe? Not even close.</div>Try reading through some of the post, there is quite a few of them if I didn't say so myself. LeBron not top 5? Please, give me a list of you're so called "top 5". And like I said a few times already, give LeBron James Shaq his rookie year instead or Ricky Davis or Z and lets see who has more titles.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh really? But the team in 2002, the Nets, ended up being swept by the Lakers, the 76ers at least beat the Lakers in overtime in game 1.</div>Only because Iverson dropped like 48 points. They went on to lose the next 4.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jun 17 2007, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe had more success because he had better teammates, better coaches, and a better offensive system to play in. Are you some kind of f*cking fortune teller? How would you know LeBron will never be better than Kobe, and I think he is a top 5 player in the league.</div>Really? But Kobe is still the best player in the NBA and developed into the best player in the NBA while Jumaine Jones and Chucky Atkins were starting teammates. Ya.......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh really? But the team in 2002, the Nets, ended up being swept by the Lakers, the 76ers at least beat the Lakers in overtime in game 1.</div>Yeah really.The Lakers had a huge break, like a week and a half off of basketball. They were pretty much partying ever since they beat the Spurs. Allen Iverson dropped 48, as CavsRules said.Plus, there were some terrible calls in the Cavs series. Remember game 3 at the end? Don't even try to tell me it was clean. By the way LBJ was performing, he would have made all three free throws.Look at the supporting casts though. Hughes, Gooden, Big Z, and Boobie is better than Snow, Old Mutombo, McKie, and Ratliff.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really? But Kobe is still the best player in the NBA and developed into the best player in the NBA while Jumaine Jones and Chucky Atkins were starting teammates. Ya.......</div>WTF are you trying to say? They didn't win when Chucky was starting...They didn't even make the playoffs.Kobe got more touches, maybe that could come in handy in becoming the best player in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really? But Kobe is still the best player in the NBA and developed into the best player in the NBA while Jumaine Jones and Chucky Atkins were starting teammates. Ya.......</div>Kobe is the best player in the NBA, and everyone with half a brain would tell you that. Like SunnyD said, he got all the touches; everytime down the court he'd touch the ball and if he could find a half decent shot he'd shoot it all day.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 17 2007, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When did I say LeBron isn't better because he doesn't have a ring? I just said Kobe had better success at age 22 with his titles.</div>Oh... my... God.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 17 2007, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh... my... God.</div>Justice, just stfu with your bullsh** trying to be funny. You come into threads trying to act like you know stuff but you don't make any points or arguments.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jun 17 2007, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF are you trying to say? They didn't win when Chucky was starting...They didn't even make the playoffs.Kobe got more touches, maybe that could come in handy in becoming the best player in the league.</div>OMG, your a real piece of work. You just said LeBron doesn't have talent like Kobe did, BUT when Kobe started taking the NBA by storm was when he had sh*tty teammates, still does for the most part, but he continues to do some impressive individual things helping his team. LeBron would suck on the Lakers playing in a real conference with the guys we got.
Kobe Bryant wanted to be the man, he wanted to take the Lakers to the top.. Alone. He "thought" he can do it. He had fun putting up big stats, but now he wants help and he wants to win.. blah, blah, blah. Kobe has Odom, which is by far better than anyone on the Cavaliers roster.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 18 2007, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Justice, just stfu with your bullsh** trying to be funny. You come into threads trying to act like you know stuff but you don't make any points or arguments.</div>I wasn't trying to be funny. What you said was completely contradictory. Paraphrased, you basically said, "I'm not saying that LeBron isn't better because he hasn't won a championship; I'm saying that LeBron isn't better because he hasn't won a championship."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 17 2007, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't trying to be funny. What you said was completely contradictory. Paraphrased, you basically said, "I'm not saying that LeBron isn't better because he hasn't won a championship; I'm saying that LeBron isn't better because he hasn't won a championship."</div> I am not contradicting myself. I'm just sick of people thinking LeBron is better now at age 22 then Kobe was, and no, Bron won't be as good as Kobe. Notice how Kobe may not even be a Laker anymore, but am I still sticking up for him? Mhm, because I know as a WITNESS, not a homer, that Kobe is the greatest thing we have seen, or will see, since the Jordan era.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KobeBryant_24 @ Jun 18 2007, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> I am not contradicting myself.</div>I guess you can think that, but what you said is very contradictory.
KobeBryant24, shut upYou're ruining yourself, it's called self destruction, believe me I know, quit participating in this topic
