Well Kobe has finally lost me as a fan! I am sick of his sh*t! I still think he is the most talented player on the planet, but I will not be supporting him (unless he ends up a Sonic).I wonder how many other Kobe fans Have finally been turned off by this latest little stunt?
I don't blame you man. He has half the Lakers fanbase that's been supporting for a decade turning their back on him. He's being an ***hole.
I think Kobe has his reasons although they arent fully clear yet. I cant see how you can hate Kobe as a lakers fan seeing as he brought you 3 titles. Even when Pippen went to the blazers I still was and am a pip fan til the day I die. If it werent for him the bulls wouldnt have one title much less 6 and ill always respect that, plus he ended up retiring a bull so any hard feelings ended there. but hell, MJ retired a wizard and I respect him more then any player ever. Players leave teams but leave memories, keep the memories and stay loyal.
I really don't see anything wrong with what he's doing. He looked at the Garnett and Iverson situations and I think realises it's better to get traded to a team that can help you win now, as opposed until waiting until your older to do such a thing because then your not as good. This is forcing them to send him somewhere good, or put a team around him, I see no problem with it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 17 2007, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I really don't see anything wrong with what he's doing. He looked at the Garnett and Iverson situations and I think realises it's better to get traded to a team that can help you win now, as opposed until waiting until your older to do such a thing because then your not as good. This is forcing them to send him somewhere good, or put a team around him, I see no problem with it.</div>I don't think he's talking about how Kobe is asking to be traded. I think it's because Kobe is flip flopping so much and handling this situation in such an unprofessional way.
I support Kobe through thick and thin. BUT, I am a Lakers fan 1st, so if he's traded, we will find out who are the real Lakers fans here and not a Kobe bandwagoner.
I was a kobe fan not a lakers fan - just to be clear on that guys- And I dont argue with what he's doing - or anything he's done , just how he goes about it is what pisses me off! He old enough to act like a man instead of a brat!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clangus @ Jun 17 2007, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was a kobe fan not a lakers fan - just to be clear on that guys- And I dont argue with what he's doing - or anything he's done , just how he goes about it is what pisses me off! He old enough to act like a man instead of a brat!</div>Well, if someone made up crap about you from inside you'd be mad too.
I'm a Kobe Bryant fan, been one every since he won every since I started watching basketball. I think hes just being a huge drama queen right now. He needs to shut his mouth, and just let the off-season take a few steps and see what L.A does. FA didn't even start yet... But I wont stop liking him or anything or not watch him play just because hes asking for a trade every week.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 17 2007, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Kobe has his reasons although they arent fully clear yet. I cant see how you can hate Kobe as a lakers fan seeing as he brought you 3 titles. Even when Pippen went to the blazers I still was and am a pip fan til the day I die. If it werent for him the bulls wouldnt have one title much less 6 and ill always respect that, plus he ended up retiring a bull so any hard feelings ended there. but hell, MJ retired a wizard and I respect him more then any player ever. Players leave teams but leave memories, keep the memories and stay loyal.</div>I don't hate him or anything. I'm just pissed off at the way he's handling himself. Not only is it nerve recking and exhausting keeping up with his flip flopping, but the fact that he voiced his displeasure publicly showed other teams that the Lakers are desperate. We need to make a deal, and now teams are going to ask for a lot because they know we're desperate. I know he doesn't want to end up a wasted talent, and I know the Front Office hasn't been great the last couple years, but there are better ways to do it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Jun 18 2007, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't hate him or anything. I'm just pissed off at the way he's handling himself. Not only is it nerve recking and exhausting keeping up with his flip flopping, but the fact that he voiced his displeasure publicly showed other teams that the Lakers are desperate. We need to make a deal, and now teams are going to ask for a lot because they know we're desperate. I know he doesn't want to end up a wasted talent, and I know the Front Office hasn't been great the last couple years, but there are better ways to do it.</div>That sounds like a personal problem more then anything. I dont see how you can get that stressed over it, even if your the most die-heart NBA fan. Even when MJ retired and the Bulls went to hell I wasnt having mental collapses. If your taking this that bad I bet in 1999 if you were a bulls fan you'd have commited suicide. :HAHAHA:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 17 2007, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That sounds like a personal problem more then anything. I dont see how you can get that stressed over it, even if your the most die-heart NBA fan. Even when MJ retired and the Bulls went to hell I wasnt having mental collapses. If your taking this that bad I bet in 1999 if you were a bulls fan you'd have commited suicide. :HAHAHA:</div>Well I was a die hard Lakers fan in 2004, so I've been through this before. I'm not throwing a bi*ch fit about it or getting overly dramatic (although I did when it first happened and I apoligize). I'm just saying I'm pissed off with the way Kobe's handling himself. Is that not okay?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 18 2007, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I really don't see anything wrong with what he's doing. He looked at the Garnett and Iverson situations and I think realises it's better to get traded to a team that can help you win now, as opposed until waiting until your older to do such a thing because then your not as good. This is forcing them to send him somewhere good, or put a team around him, I see no problem with it.</div>BINGO!!! I don't know why this is being made into bigger of a deal than it is....he is trying to force the Lakers to do something that they have failed to do the past 3 years (which have witnessed Kobe evolving into the league's best player)....build talent around Kobe that actually has a chance to contend. And if they don't, he wants to be traded so he can have an oppertunity to win a ring. As valo said, he has seen KG and AI waste their best years in horrible situations waiting for their manangement to get something done.I have been fully with Kobe on this, although I feel he handeled things a bit poorly with bringing such grand media into it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 18 2007, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Check the quote in my sig. :closedeyes:</div>You should also add a quote how manangement has done absolutely nothing and has actually regressed in terms of talent since 04/05. Bottom line is Kobe doesn't like the long road approach to rebuilding and wants to win while he is still in his prime...I don't understand the backlash. Lakers fans should be happy for the guy that helped bring 3 rings and have given you people the most entertaining one-man basketball show of the past 2 years. You should support him in his quest to either make the Lakers a contender or go the other route in hope of winning a ring in his prime.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jun 17 2007, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You should also add a quote how manangement has done absolutely nothing and has actually regressed in terms of talent since 04/05. Bottom line is Kobe doesn't like the long road approach to rebuilding and wants to win while he is still in his prime...I don't understand the backlash. Lakers fans should be happy for the guy that helped bring 3 rings and have given you people the most entertaining one-man basketball show of the past 2 years. You should support him in his quest to either make the Lakers a contender or go the other route in hope of winning a ring in his prime.</div>That's a bunch of bullcrap. Yeah, management has skipped a few deals, but some of the things Kobe is saying is just not true. He is being mislead by his friends and the media(including Stephen A. Smith) and think that all the things he said are true. That being the Lakers passing on Boozer, Baron Davis, Ron Artest, and trading Butler behind Kobe's back. Kobe in fact was well aware of the trade before it happend. I remember when the deal went down, Kobe said he was confident in management and he and Caron said goodbye a few days earlier. So Kobe knew. Second, the Lakers passing on boozer is balony. The Jazz are the ones that backed out at the last minute when Boozer made a commitment to them and said he would come strong the next season. (which he did) and the Baron Davis situation...I highly doubt the Lakers would pass that up just because he is "injury prone" The Ron Artest deal is true. All we had to do was give up Bynum, but we backed out. Not sure if that was a good or bad decision. Considering all the people that want him not, it might turn out to be a good one. I seriously just think Kobe is using all of it as an excuse. Yeah, I feel for him...but he has got to man up. If he's mad that we don't get anyone, how about he just takes a dam paycut so we can afford to go out and get some all-stars on this team.
Quoting A rush is a disgrace. He thinks Drazen whatever (some euro dude) was better than kobe.To me anyways, it is a much bigger issue than Kobe bean Bryant. It's the team I've rooted for over a decade has decided it wants to turn into the Boston celtics. There are much bigger issues than Kobe bryant if you really look into the situation. We need new management immediately who want to win. If that means dealing kobe then goodbye and cya later kobe. Knowing that is simply not the case, as a laker fan I want to win. And trading Bryant isn't going to do that.I've said a few times on other boards, if they deal kobe and get rubbish back I'm done with this team untill they get new management. We are not the freaking Boston celtics, we are the Los Angeles lakers. The direction the team is taking is freaking a joke.My list of what needs to done1- NEW MANAGEMENT2- NEW MANAGEMENTWe need new management because even if we deal kobe knowing this Front office we'll get sh*t back. And we'll be mediocre for Years to come.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 18 2007, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's a bunch of bullcrap. Yeah, management has skipped a few deals, but some of the things Kobe is saying is just not true. He is being mislead by his friends and the media(including Stephen A. Smith) and think that all the things he said are true. That being the Lakers passing on Boozer, Baron Davis, Ron Artest, and trading Butler behind Kobe's back. Kobe in fact was well aware of the trade before it happen. I remember when the deal went down, Kobe said he was confident in management and he and Caron said goodbye a few days earlier. So Kobe knew. Second, the Lakers passing on boozer is balony. The Jazz are the ones that backed out at the last minute when Boozer made a commitment to them and said he would come strong the next season. (which he did) and the Baron Davis situation...I highly doubt the Lakers would pass that up just because he is "injury prone" The Ron Artest deal is true. All we had to do was give up Bynum, but we backed out. Not sure if that was a good or bad decision. Considering all the people that want him not, it might turn out to be a good one. I seriously just think Kobe is using all of it as an excuse. Yeah, I feel for him...but he has got to man up. If he mad that we don't get anyone, how about he just takes a dam paycut so we can afford to go out and get some all-stars on this team.</div>You also had Jason Kidd if you wanted him, and Lakers have been somewhat active in other deals as well. For 3 years of "rebuilding" and not to give Kobe any help whatsoever is ridiculous. Kobe is doing this to speed things up. If it doesn't help in that cause (which it seems to have a bit) then he is out. It is as simple as that. He has made it clear many times he loves LA and wants to stay, but if manangement can't get things done and quickly then he will force them to do what I believe is right...trade him while he is still in his prime and can be in a better position to win. IMO he has given the organization so much that he deserves that from them.
I don't think anyone is condoing Bryant's actions. Nonetheless, there are much more pressing issues than bryant's drama.It's like the Carlton blues down here. We There the Afl team I root for who've been disastorous for the last couple of years They were the most dominant team in afl history.. Couple of years ago, we had a drunkard named John elliot running the Joint. He ran the team down the drain and got sidectracked after being a great president (sounds like Jerry buss and his escapades). Had our leading star come out and demanded a trade and trashed management I wouldn've blamed him. When management and the board decided winning wasn't their priority was the time I tuned out. Now the team has a new president who wants to win. We still suck getting spanked by 100 over the weekend but I've jumped onto the team because I know now where the team's priorities are.Same thing here.
