Found this intresting that's all.Full Article with more notes - LinkThe 2007 Reg. Season Leaders in Offensive Fouls Drawn.1 CLE Varejao 99 2 DAL Harris 77 3 MIL Bogut 74 4 PHO Bell 72 5 GSW Ellis 64 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's not a stretch to say that these are the glory days of flopping in the NBA.The tactic was a heated topic of debate in many playoff series this season, including Spurs-Suns, Spurs-Jazz, Cavaliers-Pistons, Pistons-Bulls and Bulls-Heat.In the pantheon of floppers, Bill Laimbeer is king of the jungle, barely nudging out Vlade Divac. 1. Bill LaimbeerA cornerstone of the famed "Bad Boys" championship teams in Detroit, Laimbeer was vilified around the league for his aggressive play, head games and the trademark "Laimbeer flop." He was the most hated player in the league during his heyday. Legendary Celtics broadcaster Johnny Most dubbed him, simply, "The Flopper."2. Vlade DivacDivac was the forefather of the European flop movement, a man ahead of his time. He entered the NBA in 1989 as a horrible defender, and his Lakers teammates -- most notably Magic Johnson -- demanded improvement. "Most of the time, I flopped because I wasn't strong enough to stand up against everybody who was so physical," Divac told the Orange County Register in 1995, referring to his early NBA career.The Lakers benefited from Divac's flops through the 1995-96 season, after which he was traded to the Hornets for the rights to Kobe Bryant. But they soon found the tables turned when Divac joined the Sacramento Kings in 1998. Who could forget the images of Divac's body flying to and fro in a flopping fiesta in the 2002 Western Conference finals? "I don't know what is flopping," Divac said in a 2002 ESPN.com article by Marc Stein. "I think Derek Fisher does a better job of that than I do. It's taking a charge. It's for the refs to decide. I'm going to play like I've been playing my whole career."3. John StocktonHe's severely underrated in the flopping department, perhaps due to his choirboy appearance and playing late games for so many years in a small market. But anyone who watched more than a little Western Conference hoops in the 1990s knows the flop was a staple in Stockton's bag of tricks."He's one of the great floppers in the league," longtime NBA analyst Steve Jones told the Salt Lake Tribune in 2001. "He knows how to get into a guy's head."4. Reggie MillerMiller is unquestionably the greatest offensive flopper in NBA history, and also the most vocal member of this list.He spent almost as much time lobbying the officials as he did feigning victimization. Miller perfected the art of drawing contact in midair -- sometimes with an extra little kick at the end of a jumper -- and often found his way to the floor despite barely being grazed.Said former NBA guard Rex Chapman during a 2004 TNT telecast: "Reggie is, without a doubt, now that John Stockton has retired, the best flopper in the game."5. Dennis RodmanA supporting cog to Laimbeer in the annoyance department for two NBA champions in Detroit, Rodman went on to win three more rings with the Bulls -- thanks in part to the skills he learned from Laimbeer. But Rodman didn't think of himself as a flopper during his days in Detroit.6. Manu GinobiliThe fifth-year Spurs guard has long been accused of flopping, but the criticism intensified exponentially during this season's playoff run. The list of people who have recently accused Ginobili of flopping includes Ray Allen, Cuttino Mobley, George Karl and Tony Kornheiser.In 2005, Allen was quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle as saying Ginobili's "hair goes all wild, and it looks like someone just murdered him. Those fouls aren't that hard."The Spurs' hometown newspaper even felt compelled to probe Manu's flopping reputation. Could he be mentoring his Argentinian countryman, Fabricio Oberto, in the ways of the flop the way Laimbeer did for Rodman? Stay tuned.7. Anderson VarejaoGinobili has the reputation, but Varejao has the stats. Varejao led the NBA in drawing offensive fouls this season -- with more than triple Ginobili's total. Varejao might have even made a tacit admission to flopping last week."My team just tries to be in good position all night, to take a charge," Varejao was quoted in the Detroit Free Press. "Maybe sometimes I exaggerate on the charge.""He's taking physical charges," James told the Cleveland Plain Dealer earlier this season, with a straight face. "He doesn't flop at all."But if you see the Brazilian go flying during the Finals, keep in mind that it ought to be difficult to move him -- he's 6-foot-10, 240 pounds, and he's no sissy.8. Danny AingeJust to clarify: We're talking only about on-court flopping here. Flopping in the front office doesn't count. Nevertheless, not to be totally outdone by Laimbeer in the flopping department, the Celtics had their own representative among the NBA's elite.9. Raja BellBell is a rising star in the flopping ranks -- and a successful one at that, considering his first selection to the NBA All-Defensive team this season. He led the NBA in offensive fouls drawn in 2005-06 and ranked fourth this season."What he does, he plays you real tight and he holds on to you, and when you try to get him off, the minute you throw him off, he flops," Sonics guard Ray Allen told the Arizona Republic. "It's his game."With moves like these, Bell is making a strong push for the "best active flopper."10. Robert HorryBesides hitting all those famous, game-winning shots, Horry also has a healthy reputation for flopping. Of course, he denies it.Honorable MentionShane Battier -- He's perhaps the most prominent of the Duke flopping fraternity, but even Battier never, ever flopped this badly.Andrew Bogut -- The only No. 1 overall draft pick in this group, Bogut is a long way from scaling the summit of Mt. Divac in the pantheon of low-post floppers. But he's off to a good start.Bruce Bowen -- For many seasons, Bowen was accused of being a flopper. Now he's accused of being a dirty player. Bowen has also been named to the All-Defensive first team each of the past four seasons. You make the call.Sam Cassell -- He's still the best offensive flopper in the game today, although Dwyane Wade made quite a push for that claim with this move.Reggie Evans -- When he's not uh, inappropriately touching opponents, he's getting in his flops. "Reggie Evans would definitely get best actor in the league," former Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy told the Houston Chronicle. "I am so sick of watching that guy flop I can't stand it. It is an absolute disgrace what he does."World B. Free -- Reggie Miller may have perfected the "get the defender in the air and jump into him" strategy, but Lloyd, er, World B., originally brought the strategy into vogue.Derek Fisher -- Contrary to what Divac said, Fish doesn't do a better job at flopping than Vlade. But Fisher has flopped with regularity throughout his career, in part to make up for a speed disadvantage against many opposing guards.Richard Hamilton -- Rip has taken the torch from Reggie Miller in the "creating contact in midair" department. Hamilton might hit the deck even more often than Reggie did. (Reggie never needed a mask.)Karl Malone -- Malone is the No. 2 scorer in NBA history and a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He also hit the floor with alarming regularity for a 260-pound, muscle-bound power forward. Malone parlayed his acting ability into a pro wrestling payday in 1998, teaming with Diamond Dallas Page against Hollywood Hogan and Dennis Rodman. It's also nice to see he intends to be a mentor for future floppers at his alma mater, Louisiana Tech.Andres Nocioni -- No word on whether Nocioni works on his technique with his countrymen, Ginobili and Oberto, but it's interesting that Argentina has apparently become a hotbed for this tactic of late. "[Nocioni] flops a lot," Pistons forward Antonio McDyess told the Chicago Tribune last month. "He just annoys you."</div>
That's a decent list, but Laimbeer shouldn't be at the top over Divac. And Varejao will eventually take the top spot if he gets the playing time, because that is essentially all he does on defense. He doesn't try to legitimately stop the offensive player. He runs to a spot and falls down. Or gets beat and falls down. Or fouls the offensive player and falls down.The only guarantee is that if someone gets near him, he's taking a dive. To quote Rasheed: "That's not defense."And as for best (really worst) offensive flopper, Reggie Miller doesn't hold a candle to Karl Malone, the flailing, complaining, tumbling, stumbling, seizure faking machine. The Mailman put more undeserved fouls on opponents during his career than any other player, the vast majority of them on the offensive end of the floor. Miller might be in second, but second place isn't even remotely close.
I don't think Ellis flops very much. He guards his man tight and he ends up annoying the player he's defending enough for them to try to plow through him.
Flopping has little to do with taking charges. If a player runs into you and you're feet are set outside of the semi-circle, then it's a charge. Players usually just exaggerate but that's not flopping. I consider running into a player at mid-court and then falling to draw an offensive foul flopping. I think Ginobili is the best flopper of the post-Divac era followed by the entire Detroit Pistons team. Coincidentally the best floppers are on the best teams.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CABANGBANG @ Jun 18 2007, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Ellis flops very much. He guards his man tight and he ends up annoying the player he's defending enough for them to try to plow through him.</div>agreed, if there's one person on that list who doesn't flop it's Ellis.
I'd put Vlade Divac at number one, simply because Bill Laimbeer was a little before my time. (At least before I started watching the NBA) I'm sure he was a flopper from reading the article, but whenever I saw old Kings/Lakers games Divac was always on the floor.
I've seen Nocioni take more legit-HARD charges than anyone. So its hard for me to put him on the flopper list because he does take hard stuff too. But I know he does flop when guarding guys one on one. Any discussion of flopping that doesn't begin with Duke University is flawed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jheiser @ Jun 18 2007, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've seen Nocioni take more legit-HARD charges than anyone. So its hard for me to put him on the flopper list because he does take hard stuff too. But I know he does flop when guarding guys one on one. Any discussion of flopping that doesn't begin with Duke University is flawed.</div>Now there is a valid statement. The Blue Devils are the original flopternity.
Dennis Rodman should have been Top 3, easily. When he was with Detroit, he used to flop all the time and it would drive MJ nuts. Hell, that whole Pistons team did.
Side Show Flop should be #1, can't stand this dude its so pathetic watching him. lol, Rip is a honorable mention, he does flop sometimes I'll admit.
If flopping is the worst thing you can say about Rip Hamilton, he'll take it. He leads the league in offensive without-the-ball push-offs, grabs and pulls by a healthy amount. I'm as big of a Pistons fan as anyone here, but honestly the dude is dirty dirty dirty when he's trying to get open on O.
