<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>When sked about the Jazz and starting small forward Andrei Kirilenko during a recent online chat, ESPN.com NBA writer Chad Ford said this: "I heard they almost moved Kirilenko at the trade deadline to the Raptors for Mo Peterson and change."---realgm.com</div>Wow imagine Kirilenko on the Raptors. Not sure how he would fit in as I am not a raptors fan.
I wouldn't mind getting Andrei Kirilenko for Mo Pete. Even more international flavour to our team. We just got Delfino, so why not just keep adding international players on our roster.
This trade would have definatly benefited the Raptors more. Both teams needed some defensive help, so the Raptors adding it would have helped, while the Jazz losing it, not so much. The Jazz could have used another outside shooter in the rotation though, but they would have to get more than just Mo-Pete.
I think we already are one of the most whitest team already. we get to add in some more defense that the raptors struggle at and hes a fairly good rebounder that can help out bosh on the boards as well.
Kirirlenko would have made a good difference as well. Like I said, complimentary lockdown defenders to parker is key. CB4 would have loved that though, he loves Kirilenko.
Don't the Raptors have a high paced offense? I think AK47 can play with a team that plays high paced.
The only reason his stats went down was because change of style and offensive focus....hes still very capable of 15ppg, 7rpg, 3bpg, 2spg and 4apg.I would love to have AK47, and Toronto would be pretty awesome if they had him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 18 2007, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if I would want AK, considering his decline this season....</div>Some of his decline can be attributed to his injury, but like Bluff said, a lot of it can be contributed to the Jazz's style of play. He's a defender who would benefit in a high paced offense. If you watched him years ago, he was all over the floor blocking shots and getting rebounds. A change of style would be good for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 18 2007, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only reason his stats went down was because change of style and offensive focus....hes still very capable of 15ppg, 7rpg, 3bpg, 2spg and 4apg.I would love to have AK47, and Toronto would be pretty awesome if they had him.</div>I would love to see him in a raps uniform. if this happened during the offseason it would be better. a sign and trade with mo pete and joey graham for kirilenko. also we jsut go delfino who can fill up the SG spot for now and kirlenko can play both SF and PF which makes the raptors not need to look for a swingman this offseason. also raptors are a running team but not like the suns who always go on fast break. once we get the ball Ford and Jose like to run and kirilenko can get the passes like marion gets from Nash. aint too sure but I think ford is more of a first pass pg then deron is, so kirilenko would get nice buckets inside.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 18 2007, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Some of his decline can be attributed to his injury, but like Bluff said, a lot of it can be contributed to the Jazz's style of play. He's a defender who would benefit in a high paced offense. If you watched him years ago, he was all over the floor blocking shots and getting rebounds. A change of style would be good for him.</div>I refuse to believe that...First of all, the Jazz have been playing the same style of play since Malone and Stockton were playing, so it's not like Kirilenko had to fit into a new system this year. And even if he played in a new system, his ppg average declined by 7...There has to be something else going on when you average 7 less ppg from one season to the next. It was probably the biggest decline in the nba this year. And it's not just his offense too. EVERYTHING WENT DOWN! Yeah, that's right...His assists, blocks, steals, and rebounds went down as well. So you can't say that it's because of the system that he plays in. That wouldn't decrease ALL of his numbers. It is obvious that he just had a terrible year, and that his play drastically declined.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 18 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I refuse to believe that...First of all, the Jazz have been playing the same style of play since Malone and Stockton were playing, so it's not like Kirilenko had to fit into a new system this year. And even if he played in a new system, his ppg average declined by 7...There has to be something else going on when you average 7 less ppg from one season to the next. It was probably the biggest decline in the nba this year. And it's not just his offense too. EVERYTHING WENT DOWN! Yeah, that's right...His assists, blocks, steals, and rebounds went down as well. So you can't say that it's because of the system that he plays in. That wouldn't decrease ALL of his numbers. It is obvious that he just had a terrible year, and that his play drastically declined.</div>Like I said, his injuries that he's had could be attributing to it to. Also, the role he has been playing could have an effect. Rumors are he is seeking a trade because he doesn't like his role on the team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 18 2007, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like I said, his injuries that he's had could be attributing to it to. Also, the role he has been playing could have an effect. Rumors are he is seeking a trade because he doesn't like his role on the team.</div>Also his numbers may have gone down because he took the backseat to Williams, Boozer and Okur. His offensive production decreased because those guys were rapidly improving in that area. I think AK47's lowest point was in the playoffs because he just could not perform at all. I think that's what will hurt Toronto the most if they do get him, he may not be their best player in the postseason.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 18 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I refuse to believe that...First of all, the Jazz have been playing the same style of play since Malone and Stockton were playing, so it's not like Kirilenko had to fit into a new system this year. And even if he played in a new system, his ppg average declined by 7...There has to be something else going on when you average 7 less ppg from one season to the next. It was probably the biggest decline in the nba this year. And it's not just his offense too. EVERYTHING WENT DOWN! Yeah, that's right...His assists, blocks, steals, and rebounds went down as well. So you can't say that it's because of the system that he plays in. That wouldn't decrease ALL of his numbers. It is obvious that he just had a terrible year, and that his play drastically declined.</div>First off, the Jazz style of play did change..and uou forgot about something else that went down...minutes. Hes didnt play much due to injury he used to be the focus of the team, this season Williams, Okur and Boozer all got alot more touches than Kirilenko. Its incredibly hard to average 15ppg behind 21ppg, 20ppg, and 17ppg being a 4th option...if that. A player just doesn't drop off for no reason when he hasnt even hit his prime yet...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 18 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First off, the Jazz style of play did change..and uou forgot about something else that went down...minutes. Hes didnt play much due to injury he used to be the focus of the team, this season Williams, Okur and Boozer all got alot more touches than Kirilenko. Its incredibly hard to average 15ppg behind 21ppg, 20ppg, and 17ppg being a 4th option...if that. A player just doesn't drop off for no reason when he hasnt even hit his prime yet...</div>exactly my point... AK would be the leader of that team if you take away those three guys. On top of that, that offense cannot succeed with four guys scoring 20+ points a game. It must be hard for AK to go from being their #1 option to being their 3rd or 4th option.
The Jazz system changed, but a lot of the plays stayed the same. but I think the biggest reason for AKs decline was a combo of a back injury(which he's had for years), the Jazz offense being more structured, and the guards fouling more on the perimiter.AK has never been useful in a set offense, that just isn't his game. he's at his best when he is just doing whatever he feels comfortable doing. He's also a guy who feeds off of himself, meaning that if he does 1 thing good it motivates him to do a lot more good things. the opposite is also true, if he gets into foul trouble early he puts his head down and struggles the entire game.as for this trade, I'm glad it didn't happen. AK can still be a great contributor, he just needs to sit down and look at the role Bruce Bowen has on the Spurs. Bowen is one of the Spurs best players, yet he never gets plays ran for him. AK could have a similar impact for the Jazz, he's lankier than Bowen and tall which allows him to be a better shot blocker than Bowen, he doesn't have the shooting range that Bowen has, but again his height can be an advantage. when the Jazz and AK turned things around vs Houston it was because they began to post AK up, that either resulted in AK scoring, AK getting fouled, or AK passing the ball off for an assists, either way the results were good for the Jazz.
Seems like both players could use a shake up, but I don't think this would have fit. Well actually the Raps didn't use Mo that much this season so it would have been nice for them.
It wouldn't really make any sense for Utah to do anything other than keep him, and they were smart in doing so. They have a good thing going for them right now, and I wouldn't see why they would want to risk moving him.
