The Official 2019 NBA Finals Thread

That's just basketball. You just play the percentages. Like they say, it's a make or miss league. You would much rather Iggy, Cook, Green and Cousins taking those shots than Curry.

Actually, Stotts took the opposite strategy in Game 1 and left Curry wide open and dared him to beat POR.

 

It's not incredulous. It's obvious that if any of those shots fall the Raptors are not in any position to be in the game with 26 seconds left. Nurse did very well. No one is arguing that. But he made a huge mistake at the end.
There isn't a coach in the league that would not recognize that Durant is not on the court. There is not a coach in the league that wouldn't recognize that Klay is not on the court. I don't consider what he did as a great adjustment. I consider it an obvious adjustment.

 

You forgot the part about blowing the double digit lead. Or is that strictly a Stotts thing?
Point is, Nurse coached his ass off tonight, but he didn't go 0- whatever it was, to start the 3rd.

 

You beat me to it.
It's like Nick Nurse totally forgot who he was coaching against at halftime.
The even better part is he waits until the lead is gone and they are down 2 before calling his first time out. Then he waits another 3 mins and the Warriors lead is at 9. Game over.

 

When was the last time you saw a box-and-1 defense in the NBA? Answer me that. It was a fantastic adjustment. GSW scored 3 points in the last 5:39. Also, answer me this, would you rather have Curry shooting the ball or the other 4 guys on the floor?

What mistake did he make at the end? Not fouling? You can see that he was waving frantically for his guys to foul Draymond when he caught the ball.

 

No, it's simply a Warriors thing. They are the class of the league for a reason. They are a all-time great team that does that to the 29 other teams in the league. Their 3rd quarter runs are a hallmark of this current team. They've done it to best coaches in the league from Popovich to Rivers to Stevens.

 

I'm absolutely certain Terry Stotts would agree.

 

And then Stotts made an adjustment for games 2, 3, 4, We led big in each of the last 3 games. But in the end of each, the Warriors played exceptionally well defense. Hats off to them.

Tonight Toronto shot 37.2% from the field and 28.9% deep. That is what the Warriors do especially in the 2nd half of games.

 

Look if you really want me to go into a defense that is not used because it's essentially a zone then i will. NBA coaches don't run them because they get run off the court in most cases. I just posted 5-6 wide open shots that didn't fall for the warriors. Praising a defense that happened to get lucky because 4 players all missed wide open shots is a pretty big reach.

No i'm not wasting my time on this. But here is the look. You use it to lock down a perimeter shooter, if that perimeter shooter is also your big scorer, you might go box and one to lock him down while crowding the paint. Your goal is no shots inside 10′ and contest out to 15′ but none of the other 4 are likely to be a legitimate threat at 20′. That is the problem! Almost every team in the NBA has players that hit shots from mid range. Contrast that to today’s basketball. Just about every NBA team can put 3 or 4 legitimate 3pt shooters on the floor. A good D1 college team can get 2 or 3 out there. And even a lot of good high school teams can field 2 or 3 good 3pt shooters. Players are much more proficient at hitting that shot now because there is an incentive to take it.
The NBA does not use it because of obvious reasons.

Bottom Line! Nurse got lucky the warriors missed wide open looks from three point.
Now as far as the mistake? Yes not fouling is on the coach. At least it always is when the Blazers play and should have fouled. Not sure why it would be any different for any other team?

 

So you're telling me that when the Warriors blitzed and trapped Dame CONSTANTLY and left Aminu and Harkless to shoot wide open 3's, they were just lucky that those guys missed them for 4 games???

 

It took an entire game for Stotts to realize that leaving Stephen Curry wide open for 3's was not a sound strategy??? At what point during Game 1 when Curry was raining 9 wide open 3's before it dawns on him that this might not work. The players on BOTH teams were shocked. Blazers players were questioning the strategy IN-GAME and he didn't change it

Toronto's shooting percentages proves my point exactly. They shot that poorly from the field yet they were in a one possession game. The defensive adjustment allowed them to cut a 12 point deficit to a 2 point deficit.

 

Go ahead and try a Box and 1 against the Blazers and see what happens. Doesn't sound like you understand the difference? Blitzing, Trapping and throwing doubles and triples is a totally different look. I suppose you want me to explain that to you also? You are gonna have to wait until tomorrow because i have to call it a night.
If you would like me to explain the difference tomorrow i would be more than willing. Just ask. Come on back and look for an answer after 6 am. Hope you have a good night.

 

This is actually wrong also but again i don't have time to explain it to you this evening.
Look for some answers after 6 am. But first go look up the box and get your facts straight about game one of the series so you are up to date.

 

I'll be waiting eagerly after 6am for you to explain your delusional thoughts.

 

are there several different arguments going on in this thread or is it just one? I can't tell

in other news, today was a glorious day in western Oregon and I chose to be outside till about dusk. Didn't see the game and have no regrets

 

Well i was actually willing to have this conversation but if you want to throw out insults then i will figure it would all be for a lost cause anyway.
Take care today.

 

Maybe it's years of bad defense that has conditioned me, but with 26 seconds left and down 2, I always want to foul. You play the FT game and extend it. Especially with timeouts left. Instead the Raps missed the steal and once Iggy got the shot, the game was over.

 

Yeah, an obvious adjustment that:
1.) We were all calling for
2.) Shouldve came before game 1
3.) An adjustment the team wasnt ready for because that was the first time we ran that defense all year.

 

You are spot on. This morning on Golic and Wingo, Bruce Bowen said the NBA is too good to be running junk defenses (what he was calling that Box and 1). He shared a story from his playing days that they went out against the Knicks and Ewing and started the game pressing and Ewing looked at him and laughed. Bowen's point was these guys have too much talent to run gimmicks against. Toronto got lucky the Warriors weren't taking what the defense gave them and missed quite a few wide open shots, it wasn't the brilliance of the defense - although in my mind, good on Nurse for taking a shot and making it close in the end.