Blake Griffin or Kevin Love

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  1. BonesJones

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    Still doesn't really make sense to me. I don't see how including Baldwin in the trade verse keeping him and waiving him made a difference at all, other than for matching salary in the Hood trade. If Stauskas matched by himself, the trade still gets made and Portland waives Baldwin to sign Kanter and adds $200K or so onto their bill for the season. I just fail to see how it was important to send out 2 players in the Hood deal instead of 1.
     
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    since Olshey was hired, 15 different teams have played in conference finals...that's half of the teams in the league. 6 different teams have played in the WCF, and over the past 5 years, the key to making the WCF was NOT being on the Warriors side of the bracket...what Portland backed into

    Warriors have been there 5 times; Spurs 3 times; Houston and OKC twice. Portland is the same as Memphis right now and for Memphis, that was their high water mark. Might be the same for Portland, and before you say that Memphis isn't a good comparison, it's worth noting that when they played in the WCF, Gasol was 28 and Conley was 25

    Olshey was gifted Lillard and backed by the richest owner in the NBA. He's had max-contract level cap-space 3 times in 7 years. In the 7th year of Olshey's tenure the Blazers got the softer side of the playoff bracket and made it to the WC finals where they got swept out of the playoffs for the 3rd straight season. Warriors have played 4 teams in the playoffs this year and three of those teams won at least two games. Blazers didn't. 'His' teams have a 37% winning percentage in the playoffs which would translate to 30 wins in an 82 game season; Pelicans got the 1st pick in the draft in a season they won 33 games

    Blazers did make it to the WCF and that's an accomplishment, but seeing how they were outclassed by the Warriors and that the Warriors don't look to be going anywhere downhill for a few years...
     
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    Exactly. So he needs to make a sizeable move for a big-time player, which he's never done in 7 years here. If history is any precedent, we'll get "close" and fans will applaud him because "he tried".
     
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    I guess you don't want to win a championship. You just want a good team.
     
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    I've won a championship...when I was 23.'77..I want a great team and another one....just think there are better options given our roster to get there and not sacrifice what depth we have developed...we need 3 new players more than likely...getting your "allstar" brand guys with injury histories might not be the best way to get there....you can pay Griffin and Love with a degree of risk or keep Kanter….I'd keep Kanter over either of the other guys.....I'd try out Aaron Gordon before Kevin Love...I just don't see them in the plans moving forward....it would be different if they were both willing to take huge paycuts to be here like Boogie did with Golden State...and Boogie is a free agent too. There are a ton of quality bigs on the market this offseason...no need to overpay or assume much risk
     
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    Or maybe many people just don't see Love as all that with a side of fries.
     
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    Paul George sure took a risk...we got the reward if I remember correctly
     
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    oh my, and now the discounting of the Blazers success once again. "We are just a lucky team". 6 teams in the WCF means 9 teams didn't play in the WCF during that time period. I would rather be one of the minorities that played in the WCF than one of the majority that didn't, but then again, I enjoy watching the Blazers play where as you like to complain about the Blazers.
     
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    Holy fuck you’re old.
     
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    I mean they got closer to beating golden state than we ever have. Maybe we should take notes.
     
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    Hey we beat them in the regular season a couple times! Oh and that one team when Steph didnt play!
     
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    Nah. We really shouldn't.
     
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    we beat them with Kevin Durant going off for 50 or something like that...they didn't miss Curry in that loss as much as folks claim..we beat them fair and square.
     
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    The Blazers have won games without Dame, does that mean they dont miss Dame?

    Overall, I get it, but still Steph didnt play. I never said that was the only reason the Blazers won. Just it is a big factor too.
     
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    Blake has three years left at $34million, $36.5million and $39million which is awful. We will give Dame a super max which will be like $52million or something in 2021/22 meaning we would be paying both of them $90million that year, with basically zero chance of making an impact in the playoffs.

    Love’s contract is equally bad though, and longer.

    Moving for either of them would be bad, bad move.
     
  19. stampedehero

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    Butler knows how to perform at critical points. He likes Philly. Would he want Portland.?
     
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    Does he? He’s also not a great fit next to Simmons and Embiid.
     

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