By definition standing pat could be defined as being “stubbornly conservative.” Staying internal to replace pending free agents would fit that definition imo.
That's not at all what I'm arguing. I'm saying that they have very little, if any say in the matter of whether or not they CAN retain those guys. I agree that standing pat would mean keeping them -- it would mean having the ability to choose to keep the same roster as last year. I'm also saying that we're picking apart Tokito's use of the phrase "standing pat" when what he really means is "helpless to control the roster this offseason and as a result will ultimately do very little".
And that’s a realistic take imo. Hood settling for the tax mid level seems like a fantasy (for blazers fans) Kanter is more likely just because of the market for centers, but that’s unlikely as well. Curry probably wants a bigger role and I can’t see Olshey giving him the MLE when he has Simons anyway. Our expiring contracts have value, but they’d probably have even more value around the deadline, so I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we held onto those guys until then. So short of a trade, the tools with which Olshey has to upgrade the roster becomes very limited. I’m preparing myself to hear a lot about internal development again this offseason. Anything else would be a pleasant surprise, but I’m not setting myself up for disappointment again.
Agreed. I think our best hopes for not standing pat are either: 1-year "prove-it" deals (ala Seth last year) Olshey finding another under/off the radar value Guys whose market collapse due to big money above them... Unmentioned in this thread is the ability for the front office to continue their development as well... Whether he'd ever admit it or not, Olshey, it would appear, learned a great deal after signing ET, Moe, Meyers and AC to those ridiculous contracts and subsequently signed Nurk to arguably one of the best deals in the entire league. Hopefully he truly has learned to let the market come to him, instead of the opposite... His talent clearly lies in finding undervalued commodities, so it's not inconceivable that what we all perceive to be minor pieces brought in, could possibly have greater potential than we give them credit for... Somewhat grasping at straws here, but again -- I see this as basically the best we can hope for.
Guys there is so much money for the Players in free agency, Scalma is right, only in our wildest dreams Hood accept the tax mle, i expect Hood. Players like barnes or horford rejected big money for more big money. Kanter and Seth are gone, we dont have the money to pay these guys, and in reality, this is not a Western Conference team after they leave. We can only hope Simons becomes like a 6th man of the year candidate and we get some cheap quality player for the tax mle. Maybe guys like Temple or whoever. And nurkic is likely out for a long part of the season. The only thing we can do is hope that we do fine till the All Star break and by the time Nurk comes back and our expiring contracts become assets at the trade Deadline
I disagree sir. I laugh when people blame the refs, but injuries are the one real excuse you are allowed to use in my book. It changes everything. For the good or bad it does. I don’t think we beat the Clips a few years ago had CP3 and Griffin don’t go down and who knows what happens if OKC had anything near a healthy PG13 this spring.
agree, injuries change everything in playoffs. No way Toronto beats GS if they have Durant & Thompson. Us not having Nurk & a healthy Kanter effected our play and potential. If Tom Brady doesnt suit up for the super bowl, Rams win!
Injuries are even more magnified in basketball because there are only five guys on the court. You lose one and it has a domino effect. It’s almost like having five quarterbacks. You just can’t lose them.
Not without huge jumps from Nurk and Collins, and CJ improving on the defensive end. I Collins could earn the starting spot by defending as he does without fouling out, and was more aggressive on his threes, and Nurk could do what he was doing with the possible improvement on % from 12-18 feet, then I could see us being a difficult matchup. Without Nurk for most of next season, I guess I'm really thinking of the season after this next one. That is a lot of "if"s.
Of course injuries matter, but is a team that makes the finals ever 100% healthy? I don't know but I would imagine somebody on the Raptors was not 100%. Somebody is always banged up to some extent and there is nothing you can do about it except have depth and coaching adaptation to counter the injury.