Post draft/Pre FA Roster

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    "Question for all you smart people... Is there a way to get another team to sign and then trade Kanter to us? Really want him back but I'm sure the MLE isn't going to do it."

    Well in that case......No
     
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    So was mine.
     
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    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    Just realized and deleted my post, but I guess I was too late.. haha
     
  4. Dougnsalem

    Dougnsalem not barf

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    Lmao.... That was some funny shit right there!
     
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    Hood is kind of an enigma. he's done well in systems that utilized him the correct way. He may want a pay day or he may want to remain with a team and fanbase that love him where he excels. I'm hoping for the latter.
     
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    Hope Portland is looking to bring in Louis King

    STOMP
     
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  7. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    I have a question: how much would Portland save if they rescinded Layman’s QO?
     
  8. wizenheimer

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    not sure what you mean?

    his QO is around 1.9M. That's not nearly enough margin to accomplish anything. I sure do hope the Blazers don't end up paying him more than 3-4M a year; even that might be too much
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    How much do the blazers have to clear to open up the full MLE? Isn’t it around 2M? Or is Layman’s QO not part of Portland’s payroll
     
  10. hoopsjock

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    Remember we did the math the other day with your Wiggins trade. Saving $2 million wasn't enough. We need to find a way to cut at least $3 million but the more we can cut from that the better. Not offering Layman the QO only saves us about $1 million because his hold is $1.9 million and a minimum roster hold is expected to be just under $900,000.
     
  11. hoopsjock

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    No, you can't do that. Any free agent signings can't be traded until December 15th (or in some cases January 15th).
     
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    that's a little difficult to say, but no, Layman's QO isn't going to help

    right now, counting Little's guarantee, Portland will be around 130M for 11 players (131M with a roster charge). And that doesn't count Layman. The Apron is 138M and the full-MLE is 9.3M while using it hard-caps the Blazers

    Portland probably needs to be in the 120M range of guarantees and dead salary to comfortably use the full-MLE
     
  13. GhostOfPGA

    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    He’s the guy who can be Rodney Hood for us, with more range and not as much post game.
     
  14. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    One of my quibbles with Olshey is that he decided to forgo future flexibility for present flexibility by stretching some guys out.

    We'd be in much better straits if we didn't have Nicolson's 2.8, Varajeo's 1.9, and Ezeli's 0.3 mil dead money on our cap every year.

    That's also my concern with some of the posters here. They want to take on long term horrible contracts on mediocre players
    because they're tired of our finally-oh-god-finally-expirings. Every move that should be made should be measured against
    "is it better than letting ET and Biebs expire?"
     
  15. hoopsjock

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    $127,931,341
    Dame
    CJ
    Nurk
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    ET
    Collins
    Simons
    Trent
    Skal
    Layman's QO/Cap Hold (about $1.9)

    Add $1.8 million for Little and we're at $129,731,341 with 12 guys.

    Hard Cap is expected to be about $138 million.

    With Nurk hurt we almost have to carry 15 guys so we'd have about $8.3 million of the MLE to sign 3 guys. So cutting Layman out of the equation we have roughly $10.2 million to sign 4 guys and couldn't exceed that amount for any reason until the new league year starts in July of 2020.

    In order to sign someone to the Full-MLE we'd need to clear enough to sign whatever roster spots are left to minimum contracts, keeping in mind that the longer serviced players count more against the cap for minimum contracts.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Or we just convince Hood (or Kanter) to sign for the tax-MLE and it solves most of our problems as long as Jody doesn't mind paying tax.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    The issue with not stretching those contracts is that we'd be either in or close to being in the repeater tax this season had we not done that. I'm not disagreeing with you exactly but there was some benefit to stretching those guys. Also, last year we wouldn't have been able to sign Kanter because Nicholson would've been taking up a roster spot.
     
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    Who has cap space this summer that could/would absorb Harkless and a pick?
     
  19. hoopsjock

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    Lots of teams are possible, it depends on how free agency turns out.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    That's a fair take. It needs to be balanced against the real fear that Olshey doubles down and offers one or more of those guys extensions.
     

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