ok so this is the rumor around Minnesota:Suns Trade: Marion ThomasSuns Recieve: GarnettWolves Trade: GarnettWolves Recieve: Ratliff Thomas Telfair Celtics Trade: Rattlif TelfairCeltics Recieve: MarionThis one hasn't been confirmed by any of the gms of either teams so it's still just talk, but it seems like a good deal. I personally wouldn't want it to happen, because it involves trading Marion, but whaddya think about it?
You think the Wolves would trade Kevin freaking Garnett for Kurt Thomas, Theo Ratliff and Sebastein Telfair? No way in hell....I wouldn't trade a bag of chips for those guys...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 21 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You think the Wolves would trade Kevin freaking Garnett for Kurt Thomas, Theo Ratliff and Sebastein Telfair? No way in hell....I wouldn't trade a bag of chips for those guys...</div> If there going to trade Garnett, they would have to get SOME talent in return..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 21 2007, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've really had it with these stupid trade rumors....stop posting them.</div>Why man? I wanted to post my Rip Hamilton for Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, and a first round pick. Ugh :ranting:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 21 2007, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This should be deleted. Stupidest trade rumour I've ever seen...</div>LOL no way. Put either Green and Jefferson, then maybe
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jun 21 2007, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've really had it with these stupid trade rumors....stop posting them.</div>
No, the TWolves would get some talent back and picks, not that... I would love to get rid of the worst all-star in the playoffs for KG.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 21 2007, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, the TWolves would get some talent back and picks, not that... I would love to get rid of the worst all-star in the playoffs for KG.</div>it depends what pick they get. but then both ratliff and thoms are getting old and wont help the team that much. and I dont think telfair would make any of a difference to make the wolves better. if that was to happen celtics need to add more into that deal.
The Wolves would get multiple picks. Sunsfanguy, where did you get that specific rumor? Or did you make it up? I know there was talk about a 3-team trade between them, but not like that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Wolves would get multiple picks. Sunsfanguy, where did you get that specific rumor? Or did you make it up? I know there was talk about a 3-team trade between them, but not like that.</div>my guess would be here.http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/gamepass/89991<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The twin cities news papers are reporting an expanded Timberwolves trade rumor: This one is gaining momentum and has Kevin Garnett going to the Suns as part of a three team deal with the Celtics that would bring the T-Wolves Kurt Thomas from the Suns and Theo Ratliff from the Celtics, both of whom have expiring contracts after next season. The Suns would send forward Shawn Marion to the Celtics, who would then send guard Sebastian Telfair to the T-Wolves. The T-Wolves would get the Celtics' No. 5 overall pick and the Suns' No. 24 overall pick in next week's NBA draft, and keep their No. 7 overall pick. In addition, the second-round conditional pick they owe Boston for a past deal would be eliminated.</div>
Via Marc Steinhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The proposed trade that would have sent Kevin Garnett to Boston, agreed to in principle by ex-teammates Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge, was taken off the table Thursday after Garnett got word to the Celtics that he doesn't want to play for them.Garnett, according to sources close to the situation, is hoping for a trade to the Phoenix Suns if he has to leave the only team he has ever played for."The Boston trade isn't happening," Garnett's agent, Andy Miller, told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan. "If a trade were to happen, that's not a destination that we're interested in pursuing."It appears that Wolves management -- McHale and owner Glen Taylor -- is prepared for the first time to make a deal that would end the Garnett Era in Minneapolis after 12 seasons. Taylor, according to Wolves sources, has informed Garnett directly of that change in philosophy.But Garnett will have a stronger-than-usual say in the destination if he is indeed moved before next season because of the ability to opt of his contract in the summer of 2008 and become a free agent just over a year from now if he forfeits his $23 million salary in 2008-09.Without at least a strong indication that Garnett would be willing to sign an extension with the Celtics, Ainge would be parting with virtually every enticing trade chip Boston has for what amounts to a one-year rental.Which pieces? The latest incarnation of the deal, according to sources, would have required the Celtics to send blossoming forward Al Jefferson, its No. 5 overall pick in next Thursday's draft and Theo Ratliff's cap-friendly contract in addition to Wolves alumnus Wally Szczerbiak and troubled guard Sebastian Telfair in exchange for Garnett and Wolves guard Troy Hudson."This would be a major trade that would affect a franchise and those in the organization, so you better be sure [he wants to be there long term]," said Miller, who informed the Wolves and Celtics late Wednesday that his client he had no interest in playing for Boston.Garnett rejected the move even though it would put him in the easier-to-conquer Eastern Conference and even though he is said to be friendly with Celtics star Paul Pierce.Garnett has said for years that he doesn't want to leave his beloved "Sota" and has consistently refused to push for a trade.Yet he is bracing for a trade now, after hearing of Taylor's new stance, which is said to have only increased his growing frustration with Taylor and McHale.And Garnett, sources say, wants to move to a warm-weather city and a team that can claim legitimate championship potential.All of which should help explain why the Suns are No. 1 on his list.Another big factor: Garnett and Suns guard Steve Nash, sources say, have become good friends over the past few years, starting in 2005 when Garnett was one of the first players in the league to call Nash and congratulate him on his first MVP trophy.The Wolves and Suns have also discussed a Garnett trade. The Wolves, though, naturally want to trade Garnett out of their conference if they can.If it has to deal with the Suns -- given the strong possibility Garnett won't sanction a move elsewhere -- Minnesota is expected to demand that Phoenix part with Amare Stoudemire in the exchange, as well as a first-round pick from Atlanta in the 2008 draft that is fully unprotected.It's considered unlikely that a Suns package built around Shawn Marion and that draft pick would be enough to pry Garnett away. Complicating matters further, Marion also has the right to become a free agent after the 2007-08 season and has also let it be known that he doesn't want to play in Minnesota or Boston, sources say. That stance quickly killed the possibility of a three-way deal involving Minnesota, Phoenix and Boston.The Suns, meanwhile, are understandably hesitant to part with Stoudemire and have tried unsuccessfully to strike a deal without giving him up. Even though Garnett would certainly help Phoenix in the short term by supplying an instant boost of veteran savvy, while also likely improving team chemistry and addressing their biggest weakness -- matching up with San Antonio's Tim Duncan -- Stoudemire is only 24 and would appear to have limitless potential after making the most high-flying comeback from microfracture knee surgery that the league has ever seen.Although Miller declined to specify a team when asked where Garnett would prefer to be dealt -- "Too early," he said -- it's believed that Phoenix will increase its efforts between now and Thursday's draft to assembling a Stoudemire-less package to satisfy Minnesota's requirements, perhaps by pulling in another team or twr perhaps they'll reverse course and surrender Stoudemire, which would finally lead to a real Garnett deal after ceaseless KG trade speculation over the past several years.Garnett has "a good handle on the possibility of being traded," Miller said. "Kevin is an extremely loyal person, and loyalty is not a common factor among pro athletes, but in this situation he understands he has to put his long-term considerations ahead of the Minnesota Timberwolves' long-term considerations."</div>It would explain a 3 way trade.
I was getting excited to start the article and then Amare came up. No way would I want to give up our future. Trading Amare for KG I don't think would put us over the top either. Hopefully they can find a way to not trade Amare. Pretty cool that he named Phoenix as his first choice though...
Suns won't give up Amare. KG isn't enough when you factor in he has about as much time left at an impact level as Steve Nash does and they wont give up the 10 years Amare has left in him. More importantly is it appears that KG will hand pick where he wants to go. Even though he doesn't have a no trade clause like Kobe he can use the threat of opting out to keep him away from places he doesn't want to be (see Boston) and the only other team in the league where he would possibly accept a deal to that could offer as much or more then Phoenix (Chicago) doesn't have the salary to match KG's deal post trade kicker.
If I was the Suns GM, I wouldnt trade Amare for KG straight up. Amare is so much younger and he is only going to get better. Look at how well he played this year after just coming off of a major surgery. He is going to be amazing in a few years as compared to KG who will be coming close to retirement.
So you think this request will kind of force them to take something besides Amare? I'm just not sure if they'd take Marion + role players...
Marion also said he doesn't want to play there. He will become my least favorite player if he screws this up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Wolves would get multiple picks. Sunsfanguy, where did you get that specific rumor? Or did you make it up? I know there was talk about a 3-team trade between them, but not like that.</div>I got it from The St. Paul Pioneer Press, the website name is twincities.com. I thought it was stupid too it just looked like a legitimate source, sorry.
