Just For Fun...Olshey and the "Whiffed" Lottery Picks

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    It boggles my mind there are Blazer fans still defending Meyers Leonard. I swear when he's 45 we'll have fans talking about his potential.

    If it wasn't for David Vanterpool then would Dame only be a backup?
     
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    Also true. When calling Meyers a "whiff", the follow should be what the proper pick should have been. One could argue Jeremy Lamb or John Henson, maybe. The intellectually dishonest answer is Draymond Green, but seeing as he was a second-round pick, clearly nobody was taking him in the lottery. But honestly, I don't think he's as bad a pick as people claim. It just wasn't a good draft.
     
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    His 3PAr in year 3 was over 45%, but he still maintained a 15.8% TRB%, with a DRB% over 25..
     
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    The drafting of Meyers was fine; handing him a $41 million contract extension when he had proven to be less valuable than Andre Bargnani was the failure.
     
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    Nobody's arguing that his second contract is defensible. I'm just debating calling him a "draft whiff".
     
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    Hughes... or those skills and his dedication to them were passing in opposite directions.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel your position as stated above is a lot more speculative than mine, but I don't think we're going to see eye-to-eye.
     
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    Not remotely true.
     
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    Fair
     
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    CJ and Dame was a hit Leonard I am going day he even just due to he still in the league and Zach I think it's a hit just due he one of the best defender we got and offensive he get his points with hardly run play for him.
     
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    Why do people say this? I've seen this said by more than just you. I saw NO choose Dame.

    What evidence do you have to the contrary?
     
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    Dame did his pre-draft with Paul Allen in attendance and before Olshey was hired.
     
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    Workouts? I remember Olshey being present for workouts.
     
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    That's always been my contention that it wasn't a good draft. The top half of the lottery was good, but after that it was a crap shoot and several players in the second round have been proven to be solid players compared to many that were drafted in the first round.
     
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    Ooh, nice dodge there. You conveniently ignored the fact that, for example, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder and Will Barton were drafted in the SECOND round that year.
     
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    Also, while CJ is a very good player, he was taken 5 picks before Giannis and 17 picks before Rudy Gobert.
     
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    "Promoted to President of Basketball Operations in 2015, Neil Olshey was named the 10th General Manager in franchise history on June 4, "

    "Less than a month after joining the Trail Blazers, Olshey drafted Damian Lillard"

    The draft was on June 28th. He had plenty of time to change the pick. Its not like he was not aware of Dame and all the other college players. He was in a similar position with the Clippers.
     
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    HAVING SAID THAT: drafting well is incredibly hard, and Olshey is certainly far from the worst at it. But it sure seems like, for example, San Antonio and Utah manage to maximize the value of their picks more often.
     
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    I didn't ignore anything, but the fact that they were drafted in the second round proves they weren't very high on ANY teams radar. Olshey also is the one that drafted Barton so he deserves credit for that then doesn't he?
     
    CupWizier, Jun 25, 2019
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    ONE LAST THING: Toronto just won a title with ZERO lottery picks on the roster.
     
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