Trade Bazemore?

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  1. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    Apparently you are just looking to continue an insignicant argument that didn't include you in the beginning. I see no reason to continue this so i will let you find someone else to argue with.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Olshey sure lucks into a lot of situations huh? Guy should move to Vegas imo. The valet parking is better anyway.
     
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    See I don't agree with that.
    I develop SW for a living, and there are a lot of problems that arise that I fix, that maybe 95% of other SW engineers would solve in that same way. That doesn't mean I don't get credit for solving the problem. I still did it, it was still me doing work to fix an issue.

    When I develope features, I don't say you know, someone eventually was going to have to develop it so really I didn't do anything.
    Nah, NO did his job, yeah it was an obvious pick for many of us, but HE did it, he made that pick, he could've easily picked someone else.
     
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    The only thing I’d say is that ET served as a placeholder for the cap space the Blazers would have lost if they didn’t sign a FA that summer. Obviously, NO had hoped ET’s ball handling and playmaker skills would bring more than they did during his time here. That didn’t work out, but the fact remains that without ET’s contract, the Blazers don’t have the means to acquire Bazemore. Would have been better if his basketball skills had been worth his contract, but still, having the contract was a net positive.
     
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    Olshey isn't "solving a problem" though. Youd get credit for the work you put in as part of the process. People couldve done the same job and did it worse. It doesn't apply to selecting a player. Neil isn't getting credit for the work he put in in regards to calling in the pick...
     
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    https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1983.html

    Why was Drexler the 14th pick? There are many, many examples of GMs over-analyzing the flaws in potentially good players and letting them slide.

    I'm glad Olshey showed common sense instead of playing follow-the-leader. I'll even give him credit for not making a rash trade involving the pick. Just keep in mind that not every good or right decision is an act of genius!
     
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    There are those that are saying a certain center from Oregon would have been a smart pick.
    I am interested in how this all will look in about 48 months.
     
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    Well here's the thing his "job" make a draft selection. He did that, he did his job. He get's "credit" for doing his job, just like you, or I, or any of us should when we do our job, we should get credit for doing our job regardless of if others would have done the job similarly, but we can agree to disagree and move on.

    I liked the Draft pick, and I really like ET for Bazemore, hoping for a few more moves this summer.
     
  9. BonesJones

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    I like you, but you can't be serious with this.

    Without Turner, we dont have to dump Vonleh to avoid the tax, and we'd have the Full MLE this summer (and probably seasons past), as well as the ability to pursue sign-and-trades. Bazemore isnt even close to being worth all that.
     
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    I think there’s space in between genius and lucky, no?
     
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    We'll well see Little like every draft pick or move is not 100% sure to work. We will find out.
     
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    So we're at the point now that we're giving GMs credit for simply calling in draft picks? Seriously?

    I love the draft pick, like the trade. The trade deserves some credit. The pick doesn't, no matter what.
     
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    Yes, your reply was damn stupid as well as rude.

    Attention folks, get the popcorn cooking.
     
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    Biased Oregon fans dont calculate for me:biglaugh:
     
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    In your opinion, and that's fine. My opinion differs, also fine.
     
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    It's rude to tell people to grow up over their opinions.

    It's rude to talk shit about someones family.
     
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    There is a difference between giving people credit for doing their job and being a good employee, and acting like any non-failure proves they are a genius.
     
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    Bol Bol might be considered a generational talent here in a couple years. There is no question if he stayed in college and stayed healthy for the next year he would be a top 5 pick. So i guess we will see right?
     
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    The way the CBA works, there’s a negative to every positive. I absolutely believe that the Blazers went into cap hell with eyes wide open. The thought was that as a small market team with a tough time attracting free agents, it was better to have contracts for trades. It would have worked in theory if Leonard, ET and Harkless performed better. Once the decision to max salary was made in 2016, the course was set. Getting a useful player in Bazemore is at least a return on the investment b
     
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    That's just, all this arguing and far reaching of these players being all stars and or superstars without stepping on an NBA court or very limited time and drafted late 1st round. I have seen Simons, Bazely and Little described as all stars or better in this forum. I suggest a more cautious approach and let's see how these players develop. I should tell the Walter Berry draft disaster but at least in the end it worked out.
     

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