Trade Ideas Thread

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    LMAO

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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why would papers be on the table for a trade?
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Maybe they are going over his contract? Incentives?
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why would they need to do that? His contract is set in stone. Olshey could get a copy and read it in hours office. Love already knows his contract. That tweet is BS for the gullible.
     
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    I just assumed one of them was getting ready to roll a joint.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Can we add incentives?
     
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    They wouldn't be. If there were papers, there should have been an agent. Additionally, in my practice, the papers stay in the office. You talk at the restaurant, but you go back to the office to look at papers and sign things--which you wouldn't need to do with Love anyway.

    Unless Olshey is paying him something under the table as a bribe, whereby we will trade for Love, not make the playoffs for the remainder of his contract, and then have all our draft picks for the next ten years taken away by the NBA for CBA violations.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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  9. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Conclusion - Random Twitter user isnt a legitimate source.
     
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    Not that I've got a lot of dogs in this fight (plus it has pretty much petered out) but teams are looking at the addition of high school kids back into the draft as essentially a "double draft" where effectively 2 freshman classes will be available at once. So to your point, it's not that any pick becomes "slightly" more valuable, it's basically doubling in value.
     
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    The only possibility would be if Cleveland decided to stretch him and make him a FA -- that would be the only reason why "papers on the table" would be at all meaningful.

    Agree that this sounds like complete BS.
     
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    Is that what you learned last year?
     
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    I think Klove and Olshey were playing Magic the Gathering at a restaurant, that was the “papers”.
     
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    If that was something that can be quantified then the draft pick should be more valuable in a trade and able to bring back a better player then right?. Not really buying into the doubling value aspect though. For example, this past draft was judged to be pretty weak after the 4th or 5th pick and can likely pick up a player at 20 that could be better than a player at 10. Now if you add in the high school class to that draft and and there is no studs coming out of high school or even if there were 3 or 4, would our draft pick really have been any better than what we got? Now it's all hypothetical as there will be surprises that were drafted later and likely some busts that were in the lottery or in the mid to late teens. Little was expected to be a possible lottery pick but he slipped to us at 25. Would that have changed if high school kids were in the draft? Maybe, but likely not or at least not much. I still stick to my contention that I would trade that pick if a good deal came along that improves us for the now in Lillards prime. Draft picks aren't a proven commodity and more don't make it than those that do.
     
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    actually contracts aren't necessarily set in stone as incentives can be negotiated such as if he has a trade kicker and can be waived if he approves. That clause is now not set in stone anymore. It's gone.
     
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    It's obviously way too early, but just looking at an early mock draft for next season, the first 13 picks are all international or incoming freshmen. The top 13! And 18 out of the top 20. Again, it's early. Does it guarantee anything about how they turn out? Of course not. Nobody is saying that. But, in what people called a weak draft, if the "double draft" happened to start this year, that would be dumping all of next year's predicted lottery choices into this draft. That obviously solidifies the draft quite a bit.
     
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    I'm not saying it won't improve the draft but also like you mentioned it is way to early to evaluate the players. I just don't think it makes the pick that more valuable to hang on to. Like i mentioned if it is so valuable keeping it, then it should be equally valuable in a trade. We have limited trade assets with a team that is a win now team and need to continue to improve this roster and building around our core of Lillard, McCollum and Nurkic. If that draft pick is considered a boon, then use it to add to our core.
     
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  18. BonesJones

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    There's exceptions but theirs no such amendment that'd be currently relevant to Olshey and Love right now other than a trade kicker and they wouldn't need to set out papers on a table in public to discuss that. People seriously believed that tweet...? Smh.
     
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    Agree on the second part of all that. I have no issue with sending out a pick if it's perceived higher value nets us a better return. Of course, my issue would be more tying up an asset that far in the future, and hampering deals with picks because of it. But am in agreement on moving it in the right deal
     
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    The Nets thought the same and gave up a draft pick for Gerald Wallace. Oops.

    Draft picks are an inexact science but it's a great way to add talent.
     
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