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  1. CupWizier

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    Now i will openly admit i have no idea if they met and if they did or did not layout papers and i look at it with some skepticism, but i would never say it didn't happen without some evidence.
     
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    Giving up the draft pick wasn't the dumbest part. Only top 3 proteccting it was the bonehead move of the year.
     
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    Just curious, would you deal CJ for Butler straight across in a s&t?

    Idk if I would because of age, but Butler is better.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Yes
     
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    without hesitation. Butler is only 6 months older than Dame and he's a hell of a lot better than CJ. I think he'd mesh with Dame a lot better than CJ does as well
     
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    I am not sure Butler meshes with anyone. Not for long anyway. He will soon be going on his 4th team in 24 months. I would trade for him, just not for CJ. Either way I doubt he would want to come here if he was replacing CJ. The team would not be that great. He has better options.
     
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    maybe I'm confusing you with somebody else, but it sure seems I've seen you talk about how close Portland was this year...'they were in the WCF!!'

    Now, with the idea of upgrading from CJ to Butler (and for sure it would be an upgrade), you say the team "would not be that great". Looks like you're standing on both sides of the fence
     
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    You are correct. You are confusing me with someone else.
     
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    Literally every player on the NBA champions including the best player in the league were not top 3. More amazing not one of them was even lottery pick.

    Picks in the middle of the first round can have great value, they also are on cheap contracts so the team can acquire another player in trade/free agency.

    I'm not opposed to trading draft picks in beneficial situations. We did that to add Mason Plumlee which was a good move. But saying we should trade draft picks primarily because they have risk is asinine.
     
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    That's really interesting, but also incredibly anomalous. Just because it happened once doesn't mean it's the path to follow.
     
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    To Portland:
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    To Brooklyn:
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    2020 1st-rounder
     
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    In :clap: a :clap: heart :clap: beat

    Don't see why the Nets do it though.
     
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    I agree it was unusual. But it blows a hole in the Shaq/Duncan championship theory that the key to building an NBA title contender is a top 5 lottery pick, ideally the #1 pick.

    The 73 win warriors won a title without a top5 pick as well.

    The MVP of the league and the MVP of the finals were both picked outside the lottery.

    My point was draft picks have a ton of value even outside the very top of the draft, potentially far into the first round. Of course many picks don't pan out, but many also do, and the ones that do can lead to MVP players.
     
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    They're shopping him.
     
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    Only thing I can find indicating that suggests that they would only deal him if they needed to open up more cap space to sign a 2nd max FA. This proposal doesn't help them do that.

    Are you seeing something different?
     
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    Who says no?

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    That's actually really intriguing on several levels.
    --For Portland, we upgrade both forward spots, put a bigger better defender (Bazemore) in the backcourt with Dame, and potentially open up a slot for Simons if he blows up this year the way some are predicting.
    --For Cleveland, they get a legit star SG to pair with Garland, and get out from under Love's contract.
    --For Minnesota, they get a young PG who can pair with Towns, and allow them to switch their FA focus from Russell to a wing.

    My first inclination is that the Blazers say no, just because CJ is a known quantity, and Love/Covington both have injury concerns. But it's really interesting.
     
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    That's why i posted it :). Covington's contract is AMAZING especially after the summer of 19 which i feel will be worse than the summer of 16. Cleveland can't keep Sexton and Garland, i dont think. Minnesota needs a PG as their sniffing around for Russell but cant get him.
     
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