Bursting the Bazemore Bubble

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Moe is a great open court athlete. Better than all the guys you listed. Hes not a noticeably worse ball handler than Bjelica, Barnes, Collins etc.

    And you dont need to have advanced ball handling to be effective in the break
    Most of it is straigh-line dribbling.

    Aminu isnt a bad open court athlete or ball handler for a PF either. His ball handling improved mightily the past year and was trashed by Blazer fans far too much.

    Fast break basketball would reduce the number of silly possessions we have drivbling the ball near halfcourt with maybe a single pointless pass or two that occurs 30ft away from the hoop that ends withone of our fantastic gaurds shooting a tough shit (which they make at a high enough clip to keep Terry his job).
     
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    I think Barnes is a better ball handler than Aminu / Moe. I know chief has gotten better but it seems like Barnes is much more natural with the ball than either of them. Overall I don't know why the Blazers don't run more, but what I find really annoying is how bad they are when they do run. I'm not blaming anyone in particular but the Blazers have ran some of the ugliest fast breaks I have seen in my life the last 5-10ish year...
    Moe's a really good open court athlete, but the Blazers seems much more content to jog the ball up.
     
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    Exactly. We start so many possessions with half the shot clock gone, and a lot of them are basic perimeter motion thays not hard to guard and takes too long to develop, so our offense dissolves into 1-on-1 isolation. It's so frustrating to watch.
     
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    We largely have poor athletes off one foot minus Aminu and Hark who are both below average handlers and decision makers that are trusted to lead the break.

    We also play two bigs a lot of the time.

    We crash the defensive glass

    Don't force live ball turnovers.

    Also don't think Dame CJ are natural transition players and are happy to rely on their half court skill and shooting if an obvious advantage isnt there.

    Don't have many teammates that you can trust on a hit ahead pass to make a quality decision.

    YES WE COULD BE BETTER!!!

    But this ain't all on Terry.
     
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    It can be, but they run a fast break and play hot potato with the ball till it falls out of bounds and at times I'm not sure which one I'd rather they did heh..
     
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    While Terry often urges Dame and CJ to push it...
     
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    I hate having to be a Stotts apologist.

    But some of you guys just bring it out of me...
     
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    In 2292 minutes last year, Aminu only had 72 turnovers. Thats 1.1 TOV Per 36 minutes.

    In 1415 minutes last year, Harkless only had 45 turnovers. Thats also 1.1 TOV per 36 minutes.

    Their "turnover issues" are greatly overexagerated.
     
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    And they tune him out? Yikes.
     
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    Shocked you'd spin it that way...
     
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    Poor athletes off one foot is why were consistently bottom 5 in fast break points...?

    Dame scored a lot in transition in college. Saw it early in his career and its been slowly phased out of him.
     
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    Well, I'm not really attacking Stotts... I could if you'd like lol.

    This does bring up something that I think is strange of the Blazers teams since Stotts has been here. Every year they generally are a "good" PNR team, a "good "1vs1, team mainly because of Dame and CJ, and the other thing they seem to be "elite" at is rebounding, which is important. However, the Blazers don't ever seem to be elite defensively, or elite offensively (though when Dame or CJ are on they have night's their pretty freaking hard to slow down). I almost feel like at times they don't know what they want to be. Like he's yelling at them to run, but then they don't seem to know their roles in transition, they all seem much more comfortable in the half court.
    They rarely get easy buckets, for their best players.
    It's... odd.
     
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    It's a part of it.

    Along with all the other things I've listed, which includes Terry's philosophies on both ends.
     
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    They've never had elite personnel on either end.

    Starting Dame and CJ forces you to make some sacrifices offensively to balance the team.
     
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    I did not mean Moe / Aminu's turnover's I meant the team in general in transition turn's the ball over or gets ugly attempts. The Blazers are simply not good at running fast breaks. Their best combination was Turner and Layman.
     
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    We don't let them handle the ball much.

    And for good fucking reason.
     
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    I want a coach that can get through to his players.
     
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    So they fill the lanes on the break then. Outlet to a guard and go. Leak out. Its not hard.
     
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    Hm, you're right. Its almost as if theyre not used to it.
     
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    Id sort of agree, but I think that a good coach but their foot print on a team, and what the coach values the team will eventually be good at those things and not as good at the things he doesnt value.
     

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