Layman to T-Wolves

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    For the 1st time in a long time, the Blazers are gonna look a lot different. I think this year will tell you a ton about Stotts. I know your feelings there, I think one could argue that some of the problems could have been roster related and not just Stotts. With so many new pieces and basically a new team around Dame and CJ, we’ll learn a lot about if it was limitations due to the roster or just Stotts.
     
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    Are we? On paper, maybe, but this new collection of guys hasn’t played a single minute together yet. It’s going to be very interesting to watch this team jell and learn to play together. I give credit to Olshey for taking some chances and swinging for the fences, but this is really a major overhaul, and who knows how it’s going to turn out?
     
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    Am almost positive it's for the amount he signs for.
     
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    there's a cap-hold for unsigned 1st round picks but Boblan was a 2nd round pick. No cap-holds on them. Until they are signed, draft picks hold no nemerical value in trades. So no, it wouldn't impact the TPE
     
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    Ah, that makes a lot more sense now.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    sigh. A terrible argument. Unfortunately, I've heard it before and refuted it many times - too tired to yet again.
     
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    Good point. I haven’t done the numbers after all the trades. If over the Apron you’re right...though technically we aren’t until the moratorium lifts, right? ;)
     
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    I'd rather have Layman than Tolliver.
     
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    Layman wasn't "on the books anymore" except as a cap-hold. His contract expired on June 30. Layman didn't accept his QO so he was a free agent.

    teams trade contracts and until Layman had a signed deal, he was untradeable. Once he signed his deal, then the TPE for trading him was his current salary which should have been over 3.5M

    the only way that TPE can be as low as 1.8M is if somehow Tolliver was added to the deal
     
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    I was just going off the listed measurements of 6-8, 225lbs.

    Still don't like relying on the guy when we're trying to contend.
     
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    Wouldn't make any sense to add Tolliver to the deal, and his minimum is higher than $1.8M.
     
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    You'd rather have a 4th string SF when our SFotF is our 5th string SF,
    than a 2nd PF on a team where the starter is foul prone.

    Curious. Explanation, maybe?
     
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    Can't Jake play PF?
     
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    it would only be the part Portland pays...about 1.7M. The league picks up the rest. The part the counts against the cap is the part Portland pays, not the full salary

    but yeah, I can't see why Portland would not want the much larger TPE as an asset
     
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    No.
     
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    So if someone did a S&T for Layman at $15M a year, that is the trade exception we would have? Okay, thanks....learned something new. I thought that's why the TPE was what was listed because the is what his QO was even though it wasn't excepted.
     
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    Ask Darren Collison to come out of retirement and join the Blazers
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I'm guessing that Jake and his State Farm agent told Neil to let him go, meaning it was time for him to get an opportunity for actual minutes elsewhere. Neil probably wanted to keep him, but not at the expense of disgruntling a player and his agent. He probably conceded this one to keep a good relationship with the agent going forward.
     
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    No.
    He could play PF when the other team goes small. Otherwise, no.

    If we want an SF to play PF, we have plenty of others who could do it.
     

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