Politics Rand Paul denies vote for 9/11 compensation fund

I don't think you know that at all, since no one kept count. We don't even know how many corporations stopped providing healthcare for their retirees. No stats were kept.
We do know it was in the millions but how many millions. Hell one company I know of accounts for nearly a million employees and dependents. In my case, my wife lost
her coverage from the company from which I retired. I had already seen the message in the wind with Obama's election. I read the work of Zeke Emanual, and concluded we were fucked. So I transition to the VA which I also more than qualified, so we only had to make up for my wife losing healthcare earned as compensation for 30+ years.

I find it mind boggling that people think this is a good trade, people losing there earn compensations to enable a politician to give healthcare to someone else.
Hell, crap like that is reason to go to war!!!

 

Plus factor in the immediate rate hikes that trump did at his resorts and also the room rate increase at his DC hotel once he got his pathetic little parade. Nothing but a money grubber

 

I agree that the first responders should have their healthcare paid, But they are State employee's so the State/Unions should cover them not the Federal Government. Same with the National Guard. The Reservist that were called in ARE Federal Government and theirs should be paid as such.

 

https://fortune.com/2018/11/15/obamacare-americans-with-health-insurance-uninsured/
fortune

 

You obviously have never been apart of any government contract with any private organization. When the government is involved everyone jacks their prices up. Hotels lose business when the President stays with them so they charge accordingly you cant walk in and stay at a Hotel the president is at. You cant book a reservation for that time period. If you already have a reservation during that time period then men in black suits come to your house and you get an extreme background check and maybe you can stay there during that time.
As far as Trump staying at His family owned resorts sounds like good business besides it was probably cheaper to stay there then Martha's Vineyards like the Obama's and the Clintons did or Hawaii for Christmas.
Now a lot of people from the opposite side of the tracks (left and right) always complain about vacations or time off the President gets and where he goes when in reality it is all about the same. Carter, Reagan, and the Bushes all had big homes to go to and that is where they mostly went Although Carter really liked Camp David so their vacations were cheaper.
I am a firm believer that our President (whoever sits in that chair) has the toughest job to do in America and is entitled to go where ever he wants for vacation on the taxpayer dime whether I agree with his policies or not.

 

Do you have unsubsidized Obamacare? Most of those 20 million that were enrolled are on subsidized Obamacare or Medicare that is something they never put in the report. Me and my wife also read the 1600 page affordable healthcare act. It took us 2 months it is an abomination. If you look at the candidates now only 1 democrat thinks it should be saved and that is Biden he has too. In 2008 I paid 60 dollars a month for Healthcare with a $500 deductible they paid 80% I paid 20 percent. Now I pay 120 dollars every 2 weeks with a 5000 dollar deductible. The democrats had a real chance of fixing the healthcare system in the US. They failed horribly.

 

The logical solution is to have Saudi Arabia pay for it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-lawsuits-over-sept-11-attacks-idUSKBN1H43A1

 

Two points:
1. Biden supports Obama Care only for the time being while adding a public option;
2. Millions of Americans had no health care at all until Obama Care came along. Yes, it's not nearly good enough but it's better than the nothing that Republicans came up with. I still have yet to see a concrete Republican health care proposal
Republicans know that health care is a losing issue for them and if they got rid of Obama Care they would get wiped out at the ballot box. Hence, they are satisfied with opposing Obama Care with nothing to replace it.

 

The Republicans are trying to use the legal system to dump Obama care:

"The big tax cut bill passed by the GOP Congress in December 2017 eliminated the penalty included in the ACA for failure to maintain health insurance coverage. This lawsuit, Texas v. United States, was filed in February 2018 by a group of Republican attorneys general and two governors. They argued that since the U.S. Supreme Court had upheld the ACA in 2012 specifically because it was a valid exercise of Congress' taxing power, taking the tax away makes the entire rest of the law unconstitutional."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...act-is-back-in-court-5-facts-you-need-to-know

 

I cannot believe I've seen right wing PATRIOTS that DEFEND the constitution and 'MERICA under any possible sane circumstance defend blocking the fund to these men and women.

Under ZERO financial reality would this be ok. Unless you hate America. Had no idea these guys were part of the "squad." Good to know.

 

When car insurance became compulsory, millions of people “gained” car insurance also. It doesn’t mean they could afford it, or it was worth the money. It just means millions of people were forced to pay for it under the penalty of law.

 

I think they were only forced to purchase at least liability.

Apples/oranges.

 

The trouble with that stat is, they only count to newbies insured. They never deducted the millions of retired senior citizens that lost their insurance by plan. The tax on employers that provided insurance to retirees, mostly by self insured former employers was possible to avoid, simply by ceasing to provide the coverage. Most were eager to comply with the newly legal pathway to escape the financial burden and the tax in one act. Comply with the OCA. Shazam! No Tax, No burden
No one counts these number, but it might be 20 million. This was to be a gift to the Insurance companies to make these people potential consumers of Medicare supplement plans or Advantage plans. No worry that they lost their rightful compensation for services rendered, they now would be force to help pay for the uninsured and those with preexisting conditions. Under handed despicable shit by Obama and his gang.

 

Ha!
I see the Ladies of the View are in unison, condemning Paul and Lee for not supporting the money for the Firemen without a corresponding cut somewhere else. It appears most of you guys feel just like the Ladies of the View, Do it! It feels good!
Barrow the money!

Geez Feeling run amok, screw the lack of logic.

I applaud Rand Paul and Mike Lee for their courage and tenacity. I think a long list of Banks and Major Corporations that were in those Towers and those near by, owe the Firemen and should pay the tab from their profits over the past 18 years.
That was the duty of the City of New York to manage that task. They totally punted.

 

Why don't you have medicare? You have been eligible for 16 years which is before Obama was in office.

 

would you rather allow people to drive on the street without insurance? The premiums would have to go up for those people. like myself that have always had all the vehicles along with the boat and jet ski insured. Last think I want is for someone to hit me without insurance and have my insurance company have to pay out of pocket. How do you think the insurance company recovers that cost? Here's a hint,raise your premium or worst case scenario, deny insurance company and then try and find insurance for a reasonable price.

 

When they hit me, I want their insurance to pay for it.

 

I wasn’t trying to give my opinion on car insurance, I was referencing the reason why the amount of “covered” individuals went up after implementation of Obamacare. It’s because it was mandatory, not because it was necessarily good for people and they wanted it. I know plenty of people who weren’t stoked about paying astronomical prices for garbage insurance. I also know others who weren’t happy about having their tax returns stolen (yes, STOLEN) as punishment for not paying for a sub-par product.

 

The OCA was a massive abuse of most of the young people and the retired people. Also those that needed purchase insurance and do it on there own.