rank who are the best point forwards today since there are not many today anyways.1. LeBron James2. Lamar Odom3. Boris Diaw4. Luke Walton (is developing into one)5. Brent Barry6. John Salmons
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Truth @ Jun 26 2007, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>point forward??</div>Basically, its just a guy that can play the point guard, 2-guard, and forward pretty well. Magic Johnson is a good example of this, and LeBron is the best right now. Point-forwards are usually good rebounders, rack up the assists, and of course can score.
also to add to that.Point forwards pass-first and then shoot-second.so don't just list a bunch of forwards who can pass and get assists.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 26 2007, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Dirk Nowitzki can be considered a point-foward as well to some extent. On some fastbreaks, he brings the ball up the court and creates mis-matches.LeBron is definatly the best right now though. He's a really good passer and that's what helped the Cavs get by the Pistons. He just need to work on limiting his turnovers.</div>Dirk has playmaking ablities but hes not a point forward. Bringing up the ball doesn't really make you a point forward or anything like that.But if Dirk decides to pass more often maybe he'll be one. But right now I think Josh Howard is more of one then Dirk.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>also to add to that.Point forwards pass-first and then shoot-second.so don't just list a bunch of forwards who can pass and get assists.</div>Not neccessarily. Point-forwards don't always pass first, or LeBron wouldn't be the top one in the NBA right now. Point-fowards can be players who are scorers, but have the ability and the court visision to pass when they need to, such as LeBron.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 26 2007, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not neccessarily. Point-forwards don't always pass first, or LeBron wouldn't be the top one in the NBA right now. Point-fowards can be players who are scorers, but have the ability and the court visision to pass when they need to, such as LeBron.</div>LeBron does pass-first at times. He does it usually an equal amount of times as he shoots though. But most of the time they are pass-first. Its very rare finding a shoot-first point forward.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>rank who are the best point forwards today since there are not many today anyways.1. LeBron James2. Lamar Odom3. Boris Diaw4. Luke Walton (is developing into one)5. Brent Barry6. John Salmons</div>How about the man in your avatar, Tracy Mcgrady? I know he played mostly SG last year, but he's 6"9 and a natural SF...I don't really see Brent Barry as a Point Forward. He got 2 apg last year....I would put Grant Hill in instead, and put him over Luke Walton and Boris Diaw..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 26 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about the man in your avatar, Tracy Mcgrady? I know he played mostly SG last year, but he's 6"9 and a natural SF...I don't really see Brent Barry as a Point Forward. He got 2 apg last year....I would put Grant Hill in instead, and put him over Luke Walton and Boris Diaw..</div>he isn't a point forward though.Hes a playmaker but that doesn't make him a point forward.McGrady shoots-first and passes-second. Hes 6'8 to let you know and he played shooting guard and small forward in his entire career.Brent Barry use to play point guard and Small Forward so I added him there.Grant doesn't play that position anymore thats why hes not there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he isn't a point forward though.Hes a playmaker but that doesn't make him a point forward.McGrady shoots-first and passes-second. Hes 6'8 to let you know and he played shooting guard and small forward in his entire career.Brent Barry use to play point guard and Small Forward so I added him there.Grant doesn't play that position anymore thats why hes not there.</div>One could even throw Kevin Garnett into the equation. He doesn't put up the amount of assists that LeBron does, but he does have the ability to play 4-5 positions on the court in one game. :happy0144:
I made this topic a while back.. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't really see Brent Barry as a Point Forward. He got 2 apg last year....</div>Brent Barry is a very good passer, but the statistics don't prove it. I wouldn't consider him a point-forward, though, because the ball wasn't always in his hands. With the Sonics and Clippers, he had some very nice passes.http://youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he isn't a point forward though.Hes a playmaker but that doesn't make him a point forward.McGrady shoots-first and passes-second. Hes 6'8 to let you know and he played shooting guard and small forward in his entire career.Brent Barry use to play point guard and Small Forward so I added him there.Grant doesn't play that position anymore thats why hes not there.</div>Lebron looks to score first and pass second too....he's on your list...Superstars like TMac and Lebron will obviously look to score first because they are top 5 scorers in this league, so that's a pretty ridiculous rule because both also are great passers, and they definitely have the ability to set people up.If that's the rule with point forwards there would be no good scorers that could be classified as point forwards. All good scorers will be looking to score first.....so I think that so called rule is ridiculous.If Lebron is classified as a point forward, so is TMac. It's as simple as that. Just so you know, Tmac averaged .5 more asssists in 4-5 less minutes played.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jun 26 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I made this topic a while back.. Brent Barry is a very good passer, but the statistics don't prove it. I wouldn't consider him a point-forward, though, because the ball wasn't always in his hands. With the Sonics and Clippers, he had some very nice passes.http://youtube.com/watch?v=LXg-k_1NGMY</div>He may be a very good passer, but anyone who plays more than 20 mpg and only gets 1.8 apg doesn't serve as a point guard for their team.
LeBron does pass-first at times.McGrady doesn't.it even says on this link.http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/category/nb...-point-forward/"Tracy McGrady also has all the tools to be a great point forward, but has focused more on scoring throughout his career (although he has focused more on play making this year)."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 26 2007, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He may be a very good passer, but anyone who plays more than 20 mpg and only gets 1.8 apg doesn't serve as a point guard for their team.</div>Did you read my post? I was talking about when he was with the Sonics and the Clippers. I also never said he was a PG.. I even said that he didn't have the ball in his hands the entire time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron does pass-first at times.McGrady doesn't.it even says on this link.http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/category/nb...-point-forward/"Tracy McGrady also has all the tools to be a great point forward, but has focused more on scoring throughout his career (although he has focused more on play making this year)."</div>Okay...sorry...I guess since one guy has the opinion that T-Mac is not a point forward, that means that it's true! And you're being ridiculous if you think T-Mac never looks to pass first. You don't average 6.5 apg as a Forward if you NEVER look to pass first. He looks to pass just as much as Lebron, maybe even more. Just give up, and accept the fact that he's a point-forward.
are you desprate now?McGrady is not a point forward.LeBron is because he played point guard for the Cavs before.McGrady has never even played point guard in his NBA Career.I think you should be the one to accept the fact that he isn't.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 26 2007, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay...sorry...I guess since one guy has the opinion that T-Mac is not a point forward, that means that it's true! And you're being ridiculous if you think T-Mac never looks to pass first. You don't average 6.5 apg as a Forward if you NEVER look to pass first. He looks to pass just as much as Lebron, maybe even more. Just give up, and accept the fact that he's a point-forward.</div>yeah and one other guy's opinion is that mcgrady is a point forward.who am I gonna believe a person I writes articlesor an online poster?I'm going with the person who writes basketball articles.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>are you desprate now?McGrady is not a point forward.LeBron is because he played point guard for the Cavs before.McGrady has never even played point guard in his NBA Career.I think you should be the one to accept the fact that he isn't.</div>Son I think you're taking this a little bit too seriously...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 26 2007, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>are you desprate now?McGrady is not a point forward.LeBron is because he played point guard for the Cavs before.McGrady has never even played point guard in his NBA Career.I think you should be the one to accept the fact that he isn't.</div>Lebron never started at PG for the Cavs before...He acted as a PG, but so does McGrady. McGrady dribbles the ball up the court ALOT, and he's the only real playmaker on that team.Am I desperate? WTF are you talking about man? I think everyone else will agree with me on this that McGrady is a point forward.
