Politics Trump: I Am The "Chosen One" To "Economically Take On China"

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by BigGameDamian, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    32,302
    Likes Received:
    12,726
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    In some ways I actually agree about China. They have been ripping the US off. Patent / Copy right theft. Forcing their citizens into cheap labor, driving down their mfg costs so that we cant compete with them because our labor laws are better for the workers.

    The problem is I dont think the tariff’s are the way to do that.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2019
    stampedehero and Lanny like this.
  3. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,951
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    I have a relative who started a company in China. He lost his shirt because of the way the Chinese treated him and because of a crooked company accountant who was Chinese.
    Yep, China had to be dealt with but this is no way to do it. Instead we should have worked with our allies instead of pissing them off. Now, it's going to take an awful lot of work to correct our current mistakes.
     
    stampedehero likes this.
  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    A friend had posted this on FB. I found it very interesting:

    Subject: Why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges?

    FOOD FROM CHINA
    Smithfield Farms, the largest pork producing farm in the USA, was sold in September to China with the unanimous support of its stockholders! The hogs will still be raised here, but slaughtered and packaged for sale there before being sent back here. This includes labels of
    •• Morrell
    •• Eckric
    •• Krakus
    •• Cudahy
    •• Premium Hams
    •• Cook's
    •• Gwaltney

    The same with many chickens. They can now be shipped there, but when they come back all that needs to be labeled is that they WERE RAISED IN THE USA. Not that they were processed in China!!!

    Our great FDA at work again. The chickens will be all processed and most sold to fast food restaurants for sandwiches, along with schools and supermarkets. The China slaughter and processing are not nearly equal to the requirements here for cleanliness.

    *BAD FOOD*
    We recently learned that Starkist Tuna is now owned by Korea, and is in big conflict with the U.S. concerning quality, safety, and records, which Korea refuses to produce.
    Read several articles on Google about this, and even one that was defending the eating of tilapia said to avoid the fish that came from China?
    Also, I had just returned home from buying Albertson's 4-day special of 4 bags of frozen tilapia for the price of one? Sure enough, on the top of the bags, it read "farm raised", and on the bottom in small print it said, "China".

    In general, farm raised fish should not be eaten because of the high concentration of antibiotics they are fed to prevent diseases due to being tightly confined with other fish. Buy wild caught fish from North America, Hawaii or New Zealand. Read all the way to the end.

    Recently a Food inspector on TV said he had lived overseas and he had seen the filthy conditions their foods are raised and processed in. It is enough to make you throw up. Many of their fish on Fish Farms are fed raw sewage daily. He said he has seen so much filth throughout their food growing and processing that he would "never" eat any of it. They raise this filth, put some food coloring and some flavorings on it, then they ship it to the USA & Canada for YOU to consume and feed to YOUR families. They have no Food & Safety Inspectors. They ship it to you to buy and poison your families and friends.

    Imported food we eat and the junk we buy:

    Green Giant frozen vegetables are from China and so are most of Europe's Best.

    Arctic Gardens are OK ,so is Birdseye.

    *Never buy the grocery store garlic unless it is clearly marked from USA or Canada*, the other stuff is grown in people poop (even worse than chicken poop). China is the largest producer of garlic in the world; U.S. is next.

    *Buy only local honey* , much honey is shipped in huge containers from China and re-packed here.

    Cold-FX is grown and packed in China and is full of fecal bacteria. Doesn't work anyway, big scam.
    If the country of origin is not clearly marked, beware!

    If produce, ask an employee.

    Watch out for packages which state "prepared for", "packed by" or "imported by". We don't understand the lack of mandatory labeling, especially on the produce.

    The country of origin should be clearly shown on the item in the store.

    Go to the local farmers' markets in season and keep a wary eye open the rest of the year.
    Please read this very carefully, and read to the very bottom. It's important for all of us.
    How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it produced in the U. S. or Canada?

    FOR EXAMPLE THE "OUR FAMILY" BRAND OF MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON THE CAN 'FROM CHINA '. - SO, for a FEW MORE CENTS, BUY THE *LIBERTY* BRAND.

    *GOLD BRAND or DOLE is from CALIFORNIA*.

    Beware, Costco sells canned peaches and pears in a plastic jar that come from China.

    ALL "HIGH LINER" AND MOST OTHER FROZEN FISH PRODUCTS COME FROM CHINA OR INDONESIA. THE PACKAGE MAY SAY "PACIFIC SALMON" ON THE FRONT, BUT LOOK FOR THE SMALL PRINT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS COME FROM FISH FARMS IN THE ORIENT WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS ON WHAT IS FED TO THESE FISH.

    *Recently The Montreal Gazette had an article* by the Canadian Government on how Chinese feed the fish: They suspend chicken wire crates over the fish ponds, and the fish feed on chicken poop.
    If you search the internet about what the Chinese feed their fish, you'll be alarmed;
    e.g: growth hormones, expired antibiotic from humans?

    Never buy any type of fish or shellfish that comes from these countries
    •• Vietnam
    •• China
    •• Philippines
    Checked this out personally.
    Steinfeld's Pickles are made in India - just as bad!

    Another example is in canned mushrooms.

    No-Name brand came from Indonesia.

    Also check those little fruit cups. They used to be made in Canada in the Niagara region until about 2 years ago. They are now packaged in China. Most sold in Aldi stores.

    While the Chinese export inferior and even toxic products, dangerous toys, and goods to be sold in North American markets, the media wrings its hands! Yet, at least 70% of North Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended.
    Well, duh !
    Why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges?

    SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, CANADA and the UNITED STATES.
    Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says 'Made in China' or 'PRC' (and that now includes Hong Kong), simply choose another product, or none at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on Chinese products, and you will be equally amazed at what you can do without.

    THINK ABOUT THIS:
    If 200 million North Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that's a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor .. fast! The downside? Some Canadian/American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory.

    Just one month of trading losses will hit the Chinese for 8% of their North American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness are worth it

    Send this to everybody you know. Let's show them that we are intelligent, and NOBODY can take us for granted.

    *Start reading labels more closely and buy something else even if it cost a few cents more*.
    And just think, if you eat in restaurants a lot, then you have no idea what you’re eating.
     
    MarAzul and stampedehero like this.
  5. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    This perfectly depicts the "chosen one"

    [​IMG]
     
    stampedehero likes this.
  6. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    32,302
    Likes Received:
    12,726
    Trophy Points:
    113
  7. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,951
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    All of the seafood that I buy is from either The USA or Canada. I guess I used to buy sardines from Norway but I'm no allowed to eat sardines any more. Can't tolerate the calcium.
    I try not to eat shrimp in restaurants because they get it from the Far East such as Thailand and I've been told that if you saw how countries over there raised their shrimp you'd stay clear. I eat my shrimp at home and I pay extra to eat American shrimp.

    You're going to have a hard time getting me to give up my Tsing Tao beer. I'll only go so far.
     
    stampedehero likes this.
  8. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,685
    Likes Received:
    17,913
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A cousin of mine works at a well known chicken processing plant here in Oregon...She doesn't eat chicken. To many diseased get through..
     
  9. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,951
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    I had a second cousin with a chicken farm in Northern Alabama. He used to regularly do a walk through inspection of his chickens regularly culling the sick and injured by ringing their necks as he walked.
     
    stampedehero likes this.
  10. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
  11. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,050
    Likes Received:
    24,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
  12. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    He'll win this standoff and the US will continue to level the playing field.
     
  13. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    If you read it though it sounds like China is saying no we didn't and they're not going to give in to our pressure. It's hard to tell who's lying when both sides do it all the time lol.
     
    stampedehero likes this.
  14. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,050
    Likes Received:
    24,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    But what's the article have to do with your opinion?

    barfo
     
  15. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN

    Trump commended Liu's stance saying "He wants to see a deal made, he wants it to be made under calm conditions. He used the word 'calm,' I agree with him."

    I think that's a good thing. Yess!!

    China has held the trade card a bit too long. Trump has "x" amount of time to begin turning the tables. Perhaps, the strong-arm approach is the answer. I'm interested to see how this all pans out.
     
  16. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    according to who? trump? the guy that lies on a daily basis. North Korea has agreed to denuclearize, Mexico will pay for the wall and the Mueller report showed no obstruction. Has any of those actually happened? :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

    PS: Would you like to purchase one of these super cool new T-shirts?

    [​IMG]
     
    Propagandist likes this.
  17. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Yep, he continually trots out a strong game. We're not slinking, though. I'll keep watching.
     
  18. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    12,451
    Likes Received:
    9,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Part Time Building Inspector
    Location:
    NJ
    Manufacturers who are embedded in China for years are the evil source of all this.
     
    ABM likes this.
  19. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,050
    Likes Received:
    24,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    trots out a strong game?

    Man, I gotta remember that one.

    barfo
     
  20. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    Strong game? He's got no game dude other than bull shit and lies and only fools buy into his crap. Why do you think you can believe the crap this liar spews? :beatinto:

    The below article seems all to familiar abm. Can you spin this one as well? :bgrin:

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-china-phone-call
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019

Share This Page