http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Apcm...o&type=lgnsI wanted KG as a laker.Looks like the hawks might be a playoff team next year with Joe Johnson and Amare.
Already posted this in the other topic. But like I said there, I am going to be freakin ticked if this goes down. Amare is the most promising big man in the league right now, bounced back amazingly from his surgery, and can dominate in games. Why trade him for KG, who is getting older and older, when you already have a dominant inside presence in Amare who is still young?
Despite RealGM and other sources saying this trade is nearly complete, don't put too much weight in these rumors. It's all talk, we've heard over and over that a third team would need to play a role in a trade, this third team which is now Atlanta will pull out before the draft. Why? Because, if Atlanta wants Amare Stoudamire to compete at the level he is doing in Pheonix they need a point gaurd who can set him up like Nash does in Pheonix and without the draft picks Atlanta loses the option of Acie Law or Mike Conley forcing them into a dilemna. Unless Atlanta has another answer for their PG issue it would be a huge mistake for them to trade for Amare Stoudamire.
I hope this trade doesn't happen I want Kobe as a laker.KG should be a laker.Amare and Marion should stay as a Sun.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 27 2007, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hope this trade doesn't happen I want Kobe as a laker.KG should be a laker.Amare and Marion should stay as a Sun.</div>Kobe said he would still want to leave if KG came, so there is no point in bringing him in. Marion as well does not want to be in PHX anymore, so it's best for the Suns to trade him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 27 2007, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe said he would still want to leave if KG came, so there is no point in bringing him in. Marion as well does not want to be in PHX anymore, so it's best for the Suns to trade him.</div>when did he say that?I heard that Kobe and KG have been contacting each other since the trade talks.
I just don't see why the Suns would do this...they can win now with Stoudamire on the team; they don't need to bring in Garnett to give them that final push...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 27 2007, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>when did he say that?I heard that Kobe and KG have been contacting each other since the trade talks.</div>Kobe and KG contacted each other before the Lakers - Timberwolves trade talk died. Also, Shawn Marion has wanted to leave for some time now. He wants to be the #1 option on some team and not have to share shots with Barbosa, Nash, Amare, etc.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jun 27 2007, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just don't see why the Suns would do this...they can win now with Stoudamire on the team; they don't need to bring in Garnett to give them that final push...</div>why one of the ideas is also trading kurt thomas and shawn marion in a 3-way deal with Boston. I just saw it on sportscenter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jun 27 2007, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>when did he say that?I heard that Kobe and KG have been contacting each other since the trade talks.</div>KG contacted Kobe after hearing Kobe would still want to leave if KG came to L.A. It was on ESPNews.
I heard this will eithier happen tommorow or today on tv...its not a bad trade. but leaves Atlanta with no draft picks, is Amare worth 2 draft picks?, Is KG? The Suns would be the obvious winner of this trade in the short run but Id like to see what Minny will do with these picks.Pachulia is also a solid center, the Wolves wouldnt have a bad start to rebuilding. Horford, Pachulia, and and a PG to go along with Foye, pretty solid.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jun 27 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I heard this will eithier happen tommorow or today on tv...its not a bad trade. but leaves Atlanta with no draft picks, is Amare worth 2 draft picks?, Is KG? The Suns would be the obvious winner of this trade in the short run but Id like to see what Minny will do with these picks.Pachulia is also a solid center, the Wolves wouldnt have a bad start to rebuilding. Horford, Pachulia, and and a PG to go along with Foye, pretty solid.</div>I think Amare is definatly worth 2 picks, especially to a team like the Hawks, who are full of nothing but lottery picks waiting on their potential. They need a player to get in there who is already developed and can contribute with Joe Johnson. This would be a very good move by Atlanta.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 27 2007, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Amare is definatly worth 2 picks, especially to a team like the Hawks, who are full of nothing but lottery picks waiting on their potential. They need a player to get in there who is already developed and can contribute with Joe Johnson. This would be a very good move by Atlanta.</div> Well look at their depth chart nowG: none (at least none real legit)SG: Johnson/ChildressSF: Childress/Johnson/SmithPF: Shelden Williams/ Josh SmithC: AmareIt could have beenPG: ConleySG: Johnson/ChildressSF: Smith/Johnson/ChildressPF: Horford/ Shelden WilliamsC: Pachuliait just means more work for Atlanta, if they dont land a PG immediately, they could get screwed. And there not taking Calderon anymore so they dont really have any prospects except maybe Mo Williams.
you honestly think they'll get Conley at the #11 if they take Horford at the #3?ain't happening.it'd have to be Acie Law.beside with the Amare trade, Joe Johnson can play some point too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticFan @ Jun 27 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you honestly think they'll get Conley at the #11 if they take Horford at the #3?ain't happening.it'd have to be Acie Law.beside with the Amare trade, Joe Johnson can play some point too.</div>I think you get the point that they are missing out on a PG eithier way if they trade out of the draft, my point is, amare and no PG, or a PG and horford, its all planning long run vs. short run, and saves some cap space, its not a BAD move, but you can question it no doubt.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jun 27 2007, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think you get the point that they are missing out on a PG eithier way if they trade out of the draft, my point is, amare and no PG, or a PG and horford, its all planning long run vs. short run, and saves some cap space, its not a BAD move, but you can question it no doubt.</div>Johnson can play PG. He's done it in Atlanta, and if I'm not mistaken, he's ran some point in PHX as well. Point is, they won't be without a PG. They should bring in Amare, an All-Star who can contribute now and help them get back into the playoffs this season. Atlanta is known as one of the worst teams right now. Season after season they have one of the worst records in the NBA. They need a player like Amare to get that bitter taste of losing every season out of Atlanta fans.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jun 27 2007, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Despite RealGM and other sources saying this trade is nearly complete, don't put too much weight in these rumors. It's all talk, we've heard over and over that a third team would need to play a role in a trade, this third team which is now Atlanta will pull out before the draft. Why? Because, if Atlanta wants Amare Stoudamire to compete at the level he is doing in Pheonix they need a point gaurd who can set him up like Nash does in Pheonix and without the draft picks Atlanta loses the option of Acie Law or Mike Conley forcing them into a dilemna. Unless Atlanta has another answer for their PG issue it would be a huge mistake for them to trade for Amare Stoudamire.</div>No they don't. Amare has played very well without Nash. It's not a NEED. They do need to fill that position but Amare doesn't need anyone close to Nash to be as good as he is.I would not like this trade. It still probably wouldn't get us past the Spurs because KG will just go and get himself in foul trouble and we'd have the same problem. I don't want to throw our future away for a 2 year run which probably won't get us anything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 27 2007, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No they don't. Amare has played very well without Nash. It's not a NEED. They do need to fill that position but Amare doesn't need anyone close to Nash to be as good as he is.I would not like this trade. It still probably wouldn't get us past the Spurs because KG will just go and get himself in foul trouble and we'd have the same problem. I don't want to throw our future away for a 2 year run which probably won't get us anything.</div>If your arguing whether the better player is KG or Amare, I think you know the answer. KG can do every single thing Amare can, and is even better defensively. You could say Amare had a superior playoffs, but KG would have done the same. KG can be a go to guy from now on. Hed fill that spot better than Amare for sure.
I'm saying that KG will be a bit better next year, but not enough to push us past the Spurs I don't think. We'd have to have both his and Marion's contracts and both he and Nash are in the latter parts of their careers. They only have 2 great years max left and then we are done with competing for a long, long time without Amare. Of course good news could be that he's better and his great defense(along with role players brought in) could put us to the next level and we win two championships. The Amare being a locker room problem could be true and we rid ourselves of that...We avoid the 2nd microfracture surgery from Amare that comes unexpectedly early and ruins the franchise. I just don't like this trade though...I'm not that optimistic about it. Of course I'm a KG fan so I won't be too upset, but I don't see us winning anything if we trade them straight up.
You know what? I wonder what KG's stats would look like at our pace with Nash...hmm...Kerr, please don't make a mistake.
