Politics 2020 Field - DNC

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I not sure, tg
    You are right on about running the worst possible candidate against Trump.
    I haven't heard many on the democratic side admit that either.
    Most independents and libertarians admit it was a big time mistake.
     
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    Meanwhile, numerous states are cancelling Republican primaries and caucuses to prevent challenge to Trump's coronation. None of the challengers are likely to defeat him, but could give true conservatives a chance to express displeasure. That would hurt Trump's little feelings.
     
  3. Lanny

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    The Brits, Germans, French, Ukrainians and others don't think it's ridiculous, they think it's fact. The Russians have interfered with other elections and got their candidate to win. Now they've done it in the United States.
     
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    I respect your opinion but disagree based on a lack of facts. There is nothing proving the effectiveness of the Russians meddling. Simply proving they meddled isn’t enough to prove it was effective in brainwashing thousands of people into voting for Donald Trump. I don’t know if there is any way to prove that.
     
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    It's been shown that the Russians affected other elections in other countries.
    Also, our intelligence says they affected our election for Mr. Trump and against Secretary Clinton.
    1 + 1 = 2
     
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    Our intelligence (and I use that term very loosely) says a lot of things that end up being untrue. The fact is there is no data to conclude that people’s opinions were effected to a greater or lesser degree when viewing one candidate or another. You can keep saying “Russia meddled” and technically not be wrong, but getting one detail correct doesn’t validate the rest of the wild theory.
     
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    Do you understand that advertising was a 150 billion dollar business last year? A lot of money is spent on persuading people to think and do certain things so it's reasonable to say that there were many who were influenced by the Russian advertising on social media.Sure you say it can;t be proven how many, just as you can;t prove it didn't have any influence, but you would rather walk around with your head in the sand rather than have anything done to prevent or at least discourage the Russian corruption. If it's not effective, why has Russia poured so much money into influencing our elections. Pull your head out johnny. A lot is happening around you.
     
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    Yep, that's effectively what I was attempting to relate when I said they didn't pull the levers for us.

    I enjoy reading your perspectives. Keep it up, Sir. :twothumbs:
     
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    Do you think Russia would continue to get involved with other countries election if they didn’t think it was working or had an impact?
     
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    I am genuinely interested in how you yourself define a true conservative.

    And a true liberal.
     
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    Time for a flashback from the past.

    While campaigning for the White House in 2008, Joe Biden criticized the Republicans’ handling of the financial crisis and said, “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here's what happened.’”
     
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    Do companies pay large amounts of money for advertising? According to records, According to studies, 151 billion was spent in 2018. Why would companies pay out that kind of money if advertising doesn't change peoples mind and get them to buy their product? If, like you seem to think, it doesn't affect anything wouldn't companies be better off not spending the money and keeping it as profit?
     
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    Russia didn’t spend 151 billion. Buzz off.
     
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    It ain't going to happen.
     

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