Aspects of players' games that are greatly overrated

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    One guy that pops into my head is Tayshaun Prince. I like him, he's a good guy to have on your team, but the guy get madly overrated on his defensive skillset. Just because he has long arms and he's a good athlete doesn't make him a Top 3 perimeter defender in the league. He got burned by Wade last year, and then burned by LeBron James this year. Those aren't the easiest defensive assignments, but still, he has physical advantages over one of those players (Wade). It seems like he doesn't even put half the effort in playing defense rather than trying to find his shot. If anything, this guy is a better help defender than a man-to-man/perimeter defender.
     
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    LeBron James - His jump shooting is horrific, I think that he made the least amount of Jumpshots of all time in the 4 games of the NBA Finals against the spurs, for a leading scorer/star player, this is bad. I know he can shot on somedays and against some teams, but he seriosly has to improve it and him being horrible against the Spurs really showed me that he does need to improve it a whole lot, I don't think the ESPN/NBA analyst looked at this close enough.Time Duncan - I feel that Tim Duncan is a bit overrated as a player in all now(PHYSICALL CAPABILITY) because he looks to be slower than most power fowards out there, I think his age is getting to him also his back to the basket post moves are also overrated IMO.
     
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    Like Prince, there are a number of overrated perimeter defenders in the league. 1 that pops up in my head is Shawn Marion. Marion is a good help defender, but he is far from a lockdown player (except on Dirk, who he usually does a real good job on). People will then pull the versatility card, but as you saw vs SA when he was destroyed by both Parker and Duncan, that means very little. Another one that pops up is Bruce Bowen. Like prince, who has always been so highly touted because Ben Wallace was backing him up (as seen with the difference between Bron this year and last year vs the Pistons), Bowen is so effective because he has Duncan behind him. Bowen is still awesome in denying a player the ball and roughing him up, but he is way too slow to run around picks or stop an athletic swingman on the drive. Without Duncan behind him, he'd get constantly lit up.On offense, I have always felt that Ray Allen is overrated. Don't get me wrong he is a fatnastic shooter and can handle the ball well, but if I were building a team off a scorer there are quite a few others I'd take before him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jun 28 2007, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Another one that pops up is Bruce Bowen. Like prince, who has always been so highly touted because Ben Wallace was backing him up (as seen with the difference between Bron this year and last year vs the Pistons), Bowen is so effective because he has Duncan behind him. Bowen is still awesome in denying a player the ball and roughing him up, but he is way too slow to run around picks or stop an athletic swingman on the drive. Without Duncan behind him, he'd get constantly lit up.</div>That's why he chooses to go with his dirty tactics, such as grabbing players' jerseys, hitting them so they don't blow past him, etc. He's a smart, but dirty defender, and some scorers in the NBA struggle while playing against him because they aren't used to his physicality. However, you have guys like Kobe and TMac who are used to it and still can drop 30 on Bowen anyday because how talented they are in scoring the ball.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jun 28 2007, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's why he chooses to go with his dirty tactics, such as grabbing players' jerseys, hitting them so they don't blow past him, etc. He's a smart, but dirty defender, and some scorers in the NBA struggle while playing against him because they aren't used to his physicality. However, you have guys like Kobe and TMac who are used to it and still can drop 30 on Bowen anyday because how talented they are in scoring the ball.</div>He used to be able to be quick enough to do those things AND use his dirty tactics. He was burned way more times this year than any other time in his career, and it is simply because he can't stay in front of players or runa round picks like he used to. He still does a great job of denying players post position, and he is great when a player takes a stupid jumper against him (like LeBron was doing), but off the dribble and around screens he is helpless.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jun 28 2007, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>One guy that pops into my head is Tayshaun Prince. I like him, he's a good guy to have on your team, but the guy get madly overrated on his defensive skillset. Just because he has long arms and he's a good athlete doesn't make him a Top 3 perimeter defender in the league. He got burned by Wade last year, and then burned by LeBron James this year. Those aren't the easiest defensive assignments, but still, he has physical advantages over one of those players (Wade). It seems like he doesn't even put half the effort in playing defense rather than trying to find his shot. If anything, this guy is a better help defender than a man-to-man/perimeter defender.</div>Let's remember Tay Prince did do a pretty good job on kobe and was a big part of their championship season.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 28 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let's remember Tay Prince did do a pretty good job on kobe and was a big part of their championship season.</div>Even though this was to Zards, let me remind you of one thing- Ben Wallace was backing him up, who changed shots, blocked shots, and forced player to take jumpers instead of going at rim. His presence is the big reason why Bron didn't explode in last year's series vs the Pistons like he did this year.
     

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