I just checked the Pac12 games so far and there is only two QB that really ran the ball at all. Ca & Ucla I looked at SEC and even Tua has only run once & From 1 or twice. I know Cristobal believes the line protects his qb and its job is to spring backs. I would venture to say that if the Ducks are in the Pac 12 playoff and looks good now, Herbert will take more chances with the run option.
we'll find out, but they run the "read option" a lot and it seems pretty clear the defense knows he's not running lol.
Literally keeps it 100% of the time. I’ve seen numerous times already this season if he kept it he would have gained a ton of yards with how open he is.. That’s what made Mariota so damn good. Herbert can fly too is what’s crazy also
The Cal game his sophomore year where he broke his collar bone on a QB sneak .......and the disaster that occurred after he was lost for half the season, is not easily forgotten. The less my QB runs the better IMO
OMG seriously? Read it closely. Yes MM is the best Oregon QB, but that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing the best Oregon QBs in the NFL. Pro Bowl players like Chris Miller. And HOF players like Fouts and Van Brocklin. No one is debating who was the best QB was while at Oregon.
I do see a lot of NFL traits in Herbert. His progressions are top notch, his footwork in the pocket is great, his ability to throw it to where only his guy can get it or no one is coveted. For instance, he had some bad throws...but they weren't picks. He's playing cautious which is what Russell Wilson does better than anyone and he's the front runner for MVP. I'm not saying he's Russ, but to play it safe is 1/2 the battle. Time will tell.
He seems pretty bad. A four year starter and when chased out of the pocket (but no close pursuers) he still can't get squared up and feet set and make a good pass. It seemed most of his passes in the second half were easy short throws. Both the touchdowns succeeded because of scheme and blocking. Of all the games I watched yesterday, every other quarterback looked better.
you're right, I missed that part...quit hiding the topic in plain sight in the first sentence....and the last.
I don't think Verdell sucks, but he has flaws. Just like Dye and Habibi-Likio * Verdell has poor vision and no patience. His every instinct is to get the ball and blast ahead. usually with head down and leaning forward. That's why he misses so many holes and is so easily tripped. He has decent power and decent speed, but that still leaves him around average. He has been a good receiver though * Dye has a little more patience than Verdell, but his vision is just as bad. He also has missed a lot of holes in favor of running into mobs. He also has some issues with ball security. He doesn't have the power of Verdell but he has about the same speed. He's arm tackled too much * Habbibi-Likio has the best size and the most power of the three backs. He also seems to have the best vision and most patience. But he's slower than the other two with no break-away speed CHL should definitely be ahead of Dye in the rotation. I'm not sure he should be ahead of Verdell. But the combination of what he does do well seems to fit the best into the type of downhill running attack that Cristobol wants to run. He may not get the number of 18 yard runs the other two backs get, but he likely wouldn't get stopped for 0 or 1 yard nearly as much. And the kryptonite for Oregon's offense the last 2 seasons has been 2nd and 9. If the Ducks consistently win 1st down, they have successful drives. But I guess that's true of most offenses the big thing is that none of those 3 RB's should be the featured RB. They shouldn't be the starters. Mark Helfrich brought in Royce Freeman in 2014 and he was the last premier RB the Ducks recruited. The Ducks had about 20 straight years of having a premier RB, but they've had a 5 year recruiting drought. It also doen't help that Oregon doesn't have any premier WR's. Guys who can stretch a defense vertically. Last year when they had Dillon Mitchell, they had somebody who needed the attention of a CB and safety. He was doubled constantly and still gained separation. When an offense can consistently take 2 defenders out of run support, they have more running space. It's also not a coincidence that Oregon's running game got better and better as Jacob Breeland gashed more and more defenses downfield. The threat of Breeland was freezing LB's and a safety for that critical second after the snap. He's a big loss that impacts the running game sorry for the thesis....high octane coffee this morning makes me drool al over the keyboard
how did you come to that conclusion? The Beavers average 4.9 yards; the Ducks average 4.8 yards. The Ducks average 174 yards; the Beavers 167 yards the Beavs have faced an excellent defense in Utah. Oregon hasn't. And both teams have faced the Cal and Stanford defenses. Beavs had UCLA; Ducks had Washington. But while the Beavs were facing the 87th best run defense in Ok State, the Ducks were facing the 12th best in Auburn. While the Beavs were facing the 112th best run defense in Hawaii, the Ducks were facing the 42nd best in Nevada. Both teams have played an FCS team; the Beavs played 2-5 Cal Poly, the Ducks played 5-2 Montana. Basically, the Beavs have a little better RB's (when Jefferson is healthy). The Ducks have a better OLine
I'll say the same thing I said about Marcus (and Winston) - that would be the worst thing that could happen to him. He would be better off going late in the 1st, or even the 2nd or 3rd rd, to a good team and coach that won't wreck him physically and mentally before he has a chance to develop.
that would cost him a lot of guaranteed money though. The difference between a top-5 pick and a pick in the 20's can be 6-8M. The difference between a top-5 pick and a 2nd round pick can be 10-15M. That guaranteed money is a significant thing in a sport as violent and dangerous as NFL football
