Politics Hillary Clinton says Tulsi Gabbard is a 'Russian asset' groomed to ensure Trump reelection

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  1. riverman

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    I honestly don't know much about Tulsi..I've heard her speak one time in an interview....if she is not a double agent ruskie spy, it's a bold move to go right to the biggest bonehead on Fox and dare him to be even dumber than he is already
     
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    I think attention seeking is going on TV across the board
     
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    If you’re trailing as far as she is, there’s no such thing as bad publicity. She’s got to get as much mileage out of this fifteen minutes as she can. Raise enough stink on Fox and maybe the story gains traction elsewhere?
     
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    Or maybe she’s jockeying for the fair-and-balanced token Dem slot post election campaign.
     
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    That is a possibility.

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    good point
     
    riverman, Oct 22, 2019
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    See “campaigning”.
     
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    No, but she could’ve voted against it. She could also refrain from smearing veterans of the wars she helped start.
     
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    So her one vote caused us to go to war? U don't think so. Didn't we have a republican majority then as well as a republican president? Why blame one person? That would be like me blaming you for trump if you voted for him.
     
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    Never said any of those things. Once again you’re twisting my words to favor your argument.
     
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    That's because you really never say much of anything of substance and don't articulate what you mean so it leads a person into filling in the blanks.
     
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    Ok, I don't think campaigning is the same thing as bipartisanship.

    Better?

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    I think thats part of my problem here if she ran third party that DOES NOT prove Hillary is right about the russia stuff. All Hillary is doing IMO is telling us what the political playbook will be on anyone running third party, say Russia made em do it, find some time someone Russian talked to them and say it’s proof!
    If Tulsi ran 3rd party it doesnt prove Hillary is right.
     
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    She's already right about the Russia stuff. Russians are supporting Tulsi.

    If Tulsi runs as a third party candidate it will prove Hillary right about that too.

    The only thing in there I think can be disputed is the very last clause.

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    All this Russia shit seems like deflection to me. We all know the real problem is China, I bet sooooooo many Politicians line their pockets with Chinese money then go and say talking to, meeting with, or eating out with Putin is the worst thing in the world.
     
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    No she's not. There is 0 proof that the Russians are grooming Tulsi. Even if there is "support for her" in Moscow that doesn't mean she herself is being used by Russia, nor does it mean they're "grooming her".
    Even if she ran without the DNC nomination it doesn't prove a thing that they're "grooming" her, because that implies that she's actively participating in it. Support implies that they're propping her up, and they may be, but Hillary is basically accusing her of being a Traitor to the country in the same way Trump is with Russia.
     
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    That said, Clinton's comments did force Gabbard to declare that she wouldn't run as a 3rd party candidate, and that may have been the desired outcome for Clinton in the first place.
    And I see that Yang has made a similar declaration today, so things are looking good, as those were only two plausible spoiler candidates from the democratic race.
    There are of course plenty of spoilers available elsewhere, and I'm sure some will declare over the next 8 months or so.

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    Didn't Gabbard Declare she wasn't going to run third party in August... How did what Clinton say in October make her do that?
     
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    Depends on whether you think 'grooming' requires her knowledge or active participation.

    Well, I guess I should have read ahead... I would say it doesn't necessarily imply that. Trump was groomed by the Russians for years, but it's not clear if he knows that.
    The phrase 'useful idiot' may apply.

    I think it is possible she and Trump are both useful idiots. Of course, Trump is the more useful idiot, but he's had a lot more practice.

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