OT Coyote facts

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  1. jonnyboy

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    I had a coyote/white lab mix named Bodi (the coyote). The lab breeder we got him from in Montana said a coyote must’ve got into the barn when the mom was in heat. Ours was the only pup that came out a coyote, the rest were the intended purebread mixture. He had some wild animal quirks, but was a really great dog.
     
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    Gotta pic? Would love to see him.
     
  3. MarAzul

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    I suppose most of this post is possible factual.
    But right up front the first two point are not likely fact.

    Depends on how many are in the pack and what the quarry is. When it was the new colony of Geese I was attempting to establish on the ranch, The coyotes came the first time a saw them with seven in the pack.
    Two would get the attention of the Gander and the others would gather the goslings before they could get to the pond.

    Now this is where a .223 rifle with a 30 round magazine comes in handy. I only had three breading pairs of geese I was trying to help establish, that first year, in my big ponds on the place, and half of one family was wiped out in the attack by the seven coyotes.
    Next day I was ready with the Bad Ass assault rifle and with two 30 round magazines, one in a pocket, one in the Bad Ass rifle. Perched on a hillside, over looking the grain field the geese fed in, sort of on the left, and the pond on the right, 300 yard away, I lay in wait, same time of day.

    They came, all seven again, as the goslings feed on my grain. I waited until the Alpha dog got the attention of one of the Ganders, while all the other geese split for the pond. Rapid fire, the Alpha dog when down, his partner next. The other were in full retreat, tail down! One more went down before the mag was empty. And out of range before I could bring the other into play.

    I always felt good about that day, a good flock of Canadian Geese were establish there that day. They returned year after year while I was there, maybe 30 pair returned yearly, 150, 160 out every fall.


    This dependents totally on who is being chased and chasing. I have never seen a Coyote chasing a dog, but a the dog chasing the coyote often, and then the Coyote is tail down, dog, tail up.
    Now you take the same dog, and watch it being chased by another larger dog, tail down dog in the lead and hitting the after burner! Chasing dog, tail up! Observations done on MarAzul's ranch, Union County, Or.
     
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  4. MarAzul

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    Well, I guess there isn't a city boy in Portland that can appreciate the value of high capacity rapid fire rifle doing good. What a shame to live with such fear, tail down.
     
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    Seems to me that anyone who feels they truly need a gun (especially a “high capacity rapid fire rifle”) are the individuals who “live with such fear”........just sayin’.
     
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    This ^^^same with deer, especially white tails.
     
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    Teradactyls were called Geese back then? Interesting.
     
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    Sounds to me like you needed a pair of good watch dogs to keep the coyotes away or an electric fence around the pond...good to hear the Geese are established now. From my hunting experience, killing the alpha male was all you needed, the others would leave...same could be accomplished with a shotgun but nice try at plugging the old rapid fire part of the story...if you want to kill the pack, you go find their home, not wait for them to come to yours would be the best tactic.
     
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    Shotgun? 300 yards?
     
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    I have no fear of tools. just sayin.
     
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    You wouldn't even need to hit them more than likely....I'm just fuckin' with ya Marz…..300 yard shot is a rifle shot for sure...I wouldn't shoot anything that far away
     
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    Their home was undoubtedly on a neighboring ranch, that included a timbered hill side above the Wallow River.
    I had no desire to kill all the Coyotes in the neighborhood, most were doing good work, hunting rodents mostly. I just want to thin down the the ones that had taken to Geese.
    One time seemed to do the trick.
     
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    My neighbor has geese in a couple big ponds and he keeps all his livestock pretty safe with a 12 volt electric fence...those work from both sides.
     
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    "Hey guys, as long as I have a gun I'm tougher than any coyote."
     
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    So you take longer to chew then
     
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    I don't think you quite have the picture. This pond was about 6 acres. No way I wanted it fenced off from the wildlife. The grain field was down the length of each side, with perhaps 25 yards of riparian zone between.
    The Wild Canadian Geese (not mine, just under my protection, with my support) brought their goslings out to feed in the grain field daily. No way to fence this, other than the fence the .223 could lay down.
    BTW, it was not an assault rifle. It's named was the Ranch Rifle, made by Ruger Arms.
     
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    MarAzul admits to having a sanctuary farm and harboring illegal aliens! :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Like Marz, I prefer a smaller caliber, a .243 which is the most accurate rifle I have ever experienced (even at 300+ yards) and I've tried many. Federal Fusion ammo is also my preference and I've tried many. Some of the guys I hunt with have larger calibers (7mm, .270 30-06, etc.) But as far as accuracy I'll stack my .243 against theirs any day. And believe it or not, they usually have to spend an hour or more to track and find the deer after the shot...I never do, mine seldom run more than 30-40 yards, even with a heart shot. Obviously accuracy and being a good shot has something to do with it but the particular ammo I use is amazing...expansion is incredible.
     
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    Yes, I notice this amazing insight you apply, each time you delete a post.
     
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    >>> Agreed! The .243 is the most accurate of my own weapons. It earlier years, the .250-3000 is in the same class for accuracy. The .270 Winchester isn't too bad as long as to stick with long projectiles, due to the slow rifle twist.

    I hear some of the modern projectiles do make the small caliber rifles much more viable. But I have not loaded ammo in the last 30 years, so I have not checked them out myself.
     
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