Do the Blazers suck?

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  1. fumanchu

    fumanchu Active Member

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    The two dates that will clear up this question are December 10th and December 30th.

    Let me strap on my homer shades and take a look.

    Between now and December 1oth (2 weeks from today) we have 6 home games and 1 away.

    Home:
    OKC (twice)
    Chicago
    Kings
    Lakers
    Knicks

    Road:
    Clippers

    Five of those games are very winnable. That would put our record at 11-14.

    Between then and December 30th: 6 home games, 3 away.

    Home:
    Warriors
    Orlando
    Minnesota
    New Orleans
    Lakers
    Suns

    Away:
    Denver
    Suns
    Jazz

    I would say there's six winnable games in there.

    That's a 17-17 record at the end of 2019.
    With 48 games in 2020, winning at a .600 clip would put the team at 46-36 by the end of the season. Between the 4th and 6th seed most likely.

    So that's pretty close to the best case scenario we're looking at.

    I have to say upon further review, tanking doesn't sound so bad after all.
     
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  2. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    If we win 3/4 of our games from here on out we will finish at 54-28... Possible? Yes

    Probable? Ehhhhh
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Tanking is the way to go.
     
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    How would you go about doing that, realistically?
     
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    There is no realistic answer.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I agree just curious how someone that advocates tanking at this point would approach it? Seems very unrealistic to me.
     
  7. CupWizier

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    Seems very stupid for anyone to advocate tanking right now as that's a losers mentality. Fortunately the team will keep playing and trying.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    No, they don't suck. I'm so fucking tired of this narrative. Lillard is a top 5ish player. CJ is a top 20ish player. If you had King, The HCP and you as the remaining starters, they wouldn't suck......well, maybe then, but you get my point.

    Olshey bombed free agency a few years ago, scrambled this year trying to salvage that and came away with talented guys that will need to gel.

    Our 2nd or 3rd best player, in Nurk hasn't played.

    Re-fucking-lax
     
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  9. riverman

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    This all day long
     
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    Did the Spurs build a loser's mentality after they tanked in 97? I don't think so.
     
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    Popovich is a loser. Yes.

    the spurs artificial championships they gained by tanking to win 4 rings with Duncan won’t change that. Either will Kawai carrying his sorry ass before the Pop ran him out of town.

    The Spurs are a scrub organization with false valor. Tanking is for scrubs, and Popovich wouldn’t have sniffed a ring without tanking. The Blazers should NEVER tank!
     
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    Seems we just beat them....see if Pop tanks this season. Their franchise player was about to retire when they got Duncan...there was luck involved in that draft for them and now there's no guarantee the worst team gets the first seed either
     
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    Couldn't agree more.
     
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    FTFY. ;)

    How is that way? care to explain?



    Make America great again....


    Okay.... HOW?



    Don't get me wrong. I understand those who want to tank and why. I get it, not my cup of tea, but I get it. But before we say its the way to go, Id like to hear HOW you guys think we can tank with Dame on the team.

    Please be realistic. Not some stupid shit like, sit Dame with back spazms all season... cause we ALL know Lillard will not accept that. If he can play, he will play. You want to force Lillard out of town and have him demand a trade? Tell him he needs to sit all season. Then see how well the tank works....
     
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    Knicks have been tanking since Larry Johnson played for them...how many coaches since then? Even Porzingas is gone....if you want to tank...become a Knicks fan....you'll get to do it year after year after year and see lots of unproven rookies or guys like Melo who can't wait to get out of there
     
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    I'm just going to go ahead and assume we have a better owner and organization than the Knicks. If you believe the Knicks and Blazers are the same, you are certainly welcome to that opinion. Look at what is happening with the Mavs when Cuban basically announced they were tanking a couple years ago.
     
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    There is a little bit of luck involved too. The Mavs ended up with the 5th pick the year they tanked and were able to find a team dumb enough to trade back so they could get Doncic. Then last year they just happen to have the right amount of expiring contracts to allow the Knicks to cut cap space and get Porzingis from it. We'll see what the results are long term. Plus the Mavs roster was awful that year they tanked, we're not anywhere close to that level of bad.

    The Blazers had the worst record in the NBA in 2005-06 and fell all the way to the worst spot of 4th in that draft. The next year they tied for the 6th worst record and ended up winning the lottery. Now though they pick to more spots instead of just the top-3 so that could be good or bad for a tanking team. If you move up it's great but if you tank and fall to 6th, 7th, or 8th while still good it might not be good enough.
     
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    The comparison is tanking...and the difference to me is the Knicks think it's a go to move and the Blazers don't.....I don't think the knicks and blazers are anything alike at all...and no matter what anyone says....tanking is flopping...if Cuban tanked, fuck him too...I see nothing redeeming in tanking for a risky lottery pick, depressing your players and making intentional losing part of team culture ….people complain about flopping....that's tanking.faking the game..sell that to a kid who scraped together money to buy a jersey and hopefully get to go to a home game...the team insults that kid when they take a dive
     
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    ...does this count :dunno:

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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Tanking would ensure no more Melo, for the Melo averse. Maybe even no more Dame. I don't recommend it at this stage.
     
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