TANK!

Are you a fan or a group? I'm confused. If I talk about Trump supporters, I also consider them a group....I have a son who is part of that group that I love dearly but we disagree about many things

 

Thank you

 

Yes but costs alot more to ship liquids. I would stick with the nails.

 

LET IT GO!!

You are no less guilty of doing what you claim riverman as doing. I find it funny how much like bonesy you have become since migrating to this forum as I actually enjoyed our interaction in the past. Not so much anymore and a part of the reason I participate less and less in the Blazer section.

 

Oh yay, here's Cup to insert himself into the conversation.

 

And bringing up someone else who isn't even in this convo. One of the main reason I frequent this place less. and my life has been happier not reading his crap. Keep doing what you are doing, maybe he will not participate in this section at all!

Then we can make this place great again! LOL

 

I was happy when listening to the last podcast to hear bones talk positively about Neil Olshey and admit he wasn't a fan of his in the past......actually you guys talk about interesting points often but there is an obvious theme about Stotts that is common in the discussions you two have....I think Stotts has more complicated schemes than "the weave" for one example..rather than argue the point on youtube, I just let it go ..I tune in and try and find common ground where I find it.

 

Do we have any examples of tanking leading to championships? The only "sort of" example I've seen given is SAS w/ Duncan, but I think a decent argument can be made that they just weren't good, they weren't trying to lose.

Everyone brings up Philly, but has Philly won anything? no.

Can't think of a single team that purposefully went out to suck that, that strategy has worked out for them in terms of winning rings.

There's a few examples of teams that got better, but for the most part I think teams are better off, trying to win, and create a culture where winning is the goal. If say there's 20 games left in the season and you're out of it, then sure you can rest guys and go for a higher pick, but 20 games into the season saying it's time to tank is just going to make a lot of your vet's want out, it's going to create a bad situation.

 

Back on topic....tanking is never an option ..it breeds apathy

 

Even after years of tanking, the Lakers end up trading their picks and young guys for Lebron in the end....if that's the path, glad I'm not a Laker fan....sorry HCP...I want players who want to be in Portland for the duration

 

Like I said I think if it's the last leg of the season, and you're basically out of it anyways, that's one thing, when it's 20 games in, that seems a little early. Now maybe the Blazers will be "tanking" this season unintentionally by just not being good, but I really don't want the organization and players to take the approach of, oh there is always next year, and losing is ok.

I tend to think that attitude has played a part in some of the issues this season, they seemed way too happy to be in the WCF's, and the way too happy all summer about it rather than upset they lost. You want your players to hate losing more than they love winning. You don't want them out there getting apathetic (to use your word) about losing.

 

You're not affecting team culture or pride though....right now we're not even mediocre but that will turn around...I think we'll be competitive now and better than mediocre when Nurk suits up

 

I don't sense apathy about losing at all....I think Dame and CJ stayed off of team USA because they were pissed about losing the finals. trades were made because they wanted to address that as well...it wasn't going to click overnight

 

Being stuck in the middle ground is really hard, not good enough to win rings, not bad enough to get top picks in the draft. I'm not sure it makes me apathetic, I do find it frustrating at times though.

 

I hope we bump this thread in March and reflect on some of these views

 

I guess I see it differently, all their social media stuff, and interviews came off to me as hey you can't tell us Dame / CJ doesn't work we got to the WCF's, and NO mentioned the WCF's a ton, like making it there was the goal. This is obviously my opinion, but then when it came out Dame basically said he wasn't doing the SD trip, or any team building type exercises prior to the season, and the way they talked. It totally made me feel like just getting there was good enough. Yeah they talked about now they're a championship contender, and now they're for real, but getting knocked out of the WCF's did not seem to bother them all that much.

 

We're a new team with a buttload of road games and a starter who's never been in the practice facility...…..patience..December they will have 12 home games and time to work out the kinks....