Made me look it up. 3 players in history (Bird in 86-87 and 87-88, KD in 12-13, and Steph in 15-16) have averaged 25ppg for a season on 50/40/90 splits. Surprised me to see that Booker is currently doing so this year. I swear, that guy is either the most overlooked player or the least impactful superstar in the league.
The NBA.com data comes from second spectrum, which is used by pretty much every team in the league. There may or may not be different variables as to how to they determine what an isolation play is. The definition is probably what is causing these discrepancies between what you're seeing and what is being shown.
Just watch the 42-point 1st quarter against OKC. How did they do that? The Blazers as currently constructed have been to the finals zero times and were swept in the WC finals last season by a team missing key players. Because something works OK or is even near the top of the league, doesn't mean you don't try to do even better. Maybe it'll come later in the season. We saw a little of it with Whiteside's passing last game.
We weren't missing key players? We also had Kanter and Aminu who had been fasting for religious purposes and were a shell of how they had been playing prior to fasting during that series.
very likely true, but at the same time, when people here talk about and criticize Portland's isolation offense, I'm pretty sure they are thinking about a broader definition than NBA.com/SecondSpectrum uses. I think just about everybody here would believe that Portland uses isolation a lot more than the 10% of the time NBA.com says the Blazers do. I mean that's only 11.5 plays out of the 114 possessions that Portland averages....really? To me it looks like they end up in isolation that many times during a single quarter in some of their games, but maybe that's me just hating that part of their offense when it seems to be what so much of it is
When Portland runs the weave or does dribble handoffs way away from the basket that probably doesn't qualify as ISO since technically there are multiple players involved even though it often leads to ISO situations.
yeah, and NBA.com says Portland runs over 40 PnR & Off Screen plays a game and I know quite a few of those devolve to one-on-one. If a possession starts as a PnR but ends with Dame or CJ or Hood or Melo going iso, which one should it be counted as?
That would take too long and you'd just continue misinterpreting stats to try to make them fit into your preconceived opinion, facts be damned, and nothing would be resolved. So I thought instead I'd just agree with you on something and then enjoy my Friday night.
LOL...yeah, sure....I've noticed you're one of those people who will condemn stats that conflict with their bias and praise stats that support that bias. And of course, accuse people who post the stats you don't like as "misinterpreting" them. again...you chose to enter this discussion with nothing more than a little snark. I asked, politely, for you to point out what I was getting wrong , since you went out of your way to say I was. Now I'll ask what facts it is that I'm "damning"....see if you can come up with something like an argument other than your dislike of me
and yet here you are disputing facts that don't fit your narrative and many times you post stats that fit your narrative and ignore other stats that don't support your stance. That's pretty much the definition of a hypocrite isn't it?
those aren't facts though it's Friday night in Oregon...that's a fact. The Blazers play the Lakers tonight...that's a fact some website first defining what an isolation play is, then doing a tally of them according to their arbitrary definition is not a fact, in either case. it's an opinion. It may be a professional opinion considering they may get paid for it...but it's still opinion
Have to say this is one of the best threads in here right now. Very interesting post and most of the posts after this are really good discussion on the subject. Thanks for taking the time to dig up these stats and take a look at it.
bullshit I was questioning how they define what an isolation play is because I though them saying Portland only has 11 isolation plays a game was inaccurate...and they don't explain how they define isolation on those pages that were linked and by the way, you implied I was a hypocrite for disputing "facts"...that was bullshit too
