<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mrMiyagi @ Jul 2 2007, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bring on the hate wagon!!! A player signed with the Raptors so all you Anti-raptors BRING ON THE HATE and we'll win the division again!</div><span style="font-family:Tahoma">You're a loser... And you wont win the division this year. Ray Allen can single handled win it.</span>
I think this was a good pickup by the Raptors because of the style Colangelo is trying to create and I think he'll give them a boost late in games, but $6 MIL a year is a bit too much. Yeah he was the league's top 3 point shooter in efficiency by far last season, but I even wonder if Kapono would have taken less, let alone how much money other teams would have offered him. The MLE is $5MIL right? I doubt a team would have offered him their full exception...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MiﮒFi?? @ Jul 1 2007, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So... if he plays well for us nobody will care about we over paid or not. He is not a streaking shooter like Morris Peterson he is one of the best if not the best shooters in the NBA. And if Mo Pete deserves 5M why can't Kapono make 6M. If I were you I would worry less about the Raptors are doing and more what the Celtics are doing. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce on the same team wow thats going to be mess. Sure it looks good on paper but do you really think either one want to take less shots. These guys are not exactly team players lol.</div> Oh, sorry. I wasn't aware that I was only allowed to comment on the Celtics this offseason. Besides, Pierce/Allen are very different, and they most certainly are team players. Ask any Celtics fan, any Sonics fan, and any Bucks fan if you haven't seen them enough. Just because they take a lot of shots doesn't mean they are ball hogs, they are stars, they should be taking the bulk of the shots. Pierce and Allen are very different, as Pierce is more of a bigger wing that likes to play tough, grab boards, post up, use his mid-range game, and he's obviously a deadly 1-on-1 player. Ray Allen, on the other hand, moves exceptionally well without the ball, is one of the best shooters in the history of the game, comes off screens, and works well off the pick n' roll. Both players bring different things to the table, both are most certainly unselfish (I don't understand why you think are are selfish players), and I think they actually compliment each other perfectly. Also consider that Pierce doesn't have to guard quicker players anymore, he can now revert back to defending the 3's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CavsRules @ Jul 2 2007, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Tahoma">You're a loser... And you wont win the division this year. Ray Allen can single handled win it.</span></div>No, we'll be able to fend off the Celtics. Now we have experience as a winning team...If we started out well last year, we would have probably had a better record than the Bulls and Cavs...We're a great team, and we have great chemistry.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CavsRules @ Jul 2 2007, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Tahoma">You're a loser... And you wont win the division this year. Ray Allen can single handled win it.</span></div>No, we'll be able to fend off the Celtics. Now we have experience as a winning team...If we started out well last year, we would have probably had a better record than the Bulls and Cavs...We're a great team, and we have great chemistry.I do see the Celtics possibly making the playoffs now though.
Bad Deal.There were a couple of bad deals by Bryant Colango, including this one. Comparing to TJ Ford's 32M contract, this one is extremely bad deal. Kapono could be an upgrade version of Juan Dixon (I questioned the deal right afte it), but a LOT worse. Kapono can't defense, Kapono can't rebounce, Kapno can't handle the ball, and Kapono is no MPete, he can't penetrate, and 6M for 4 years? Crazy. Expecially considering Colango doesn't even have intention to extend Jose's contract, who has much big impact to the Ratpors.Now Raptors have three bad contracts to clear up: TJ Ford 32M, Kapono 24M, and Juan Dixon 2.5M
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R2S @ Jul 2 2007, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bad Deal.There were a couple of bad deals by Bryant Colango, including this one. Comparing to TJ Ford's 32M contract, this one is extremely bad deal. Kapono could be an upgrade version of Juan Dixon (I questioned the deal right afte it), but a LOT worse. Kapono can't defense, Kapono can't rebounce, Kapno can't handle the ball, and Kapono is no MPete, he can't penetrate, and 6M for 4 years? Crazy. Expecially considering Colango doesn't even have intention to extend Jose's contract, who has much big impact to the Ratpors.Now Raptors have three bad contracts to clear up: TJ Ford 32M, Kapono 24M, and Juan Dixon 2.5M</div>The Raptors ARE NOT giving up TJ Ford. You're the only one who seems to want to get rid of him. Getting rid of Juan Dixon and Joey Graham are the next things on because's list...maybe a Mo sign and trade too...We need a rebounder though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 2 2007, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, we'll be able to fend off the Celtics. Now we have experience as a winning team...If we started out well last year, we would have probably had a better record than the Bulls and Cavs...We're a great team, and we have great chemistry.</div><span style="font-family:Tahoma">Well, IMO I see Boston winning that division if they can stay healthy. Toronto wont have a better record than Cleveland or Chicago, thats going a little over the edge there. Great team, but not there yet.</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R2S @ Jul 2 2007, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bad Deal.There were a couple of bad deals by Bryant Colango, including this one. Comparing to TJ Ford's 32M contract, this one is extremely bad deal. Kapono could be an upgrade version of Juan Dixon (I questioned the deal right afte it), but a LOT worse. Kapono can't defense, Kapono can't rebounce, Kapno can't handle the ball, and Kapono is no MPete, he can't penetrate, and 6M for 4 years? Crazy. Expecially considering Colango doesn't even have intention to extend Jose's contract, who has much big impact to the Ratpors.Now Raptors have three bad contracts to clear up: TJ Ford 32M, Kapono 24M, and Juan Dixon 2.5M</div>everytime since you came you seem to dislike the raptors and always talking negative things about them. like CB4AllStar said we arent trading Ford. he is going to be a star soon and runs our offense perfectly. he still young and will have lots of time to improve. colangelo wanted kapono a lot so he overpaid him so he would be the top runner for kapono. raptors also needed a spot up shooter from the 3 that can just come off the bench and stay benhind the arc anywhere and just knock it down with ease. our next step is to get rid of graham and dixon as we dont have a need for them anymore. dixon has been replaced by delfino.
Got this off a poster on realgm<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Whether you like the idea of adding a 3 point specialist or not, every Raptor fan wants to know, was the deal to Kapono a huge ripoff or not? I decided to take a look at some of the league's better perimeter scorers, compare their salaries, 3 pointers made and 3 point percentages. NOTE: NOTABLE EXCLUSIONS Dirk Nowitski (He's a superstar) Steve Nash (He's a superstar) Ray Allen (Superstar reason) Rashard Lewis (Superstar season) Walter Herman (It was his rookie season) Brent Barry - 5.5 Million (last year of deal) 1.7 3s .446% Kyle Korver - 5 Million (over the next 4 years) 1.8 3s .430% Bostjan Nachbar - 2.5 Million (rookie contract) 1.5 3s .423% Shane Battier - 6.5 Million (over the next 4 years) 1.93s .421% Wally Szczerbiak - 12 Million (over 2 next 2 years) 1.4 3s .415% Raja Bell - 5 Million (over next 3 years) 2.6 3s .413% Mike Miller - 8.5 Million (over next 3 years - NOTE: Borderline superstar season) 2.9 3s .406% Luther Head - 2 Million (rookie contract) 2.2 3s .441% Jason Kapono - 6 Million (over next 4 years) 1.6 .514% I think this quick glimpse around the league tells us a few things: 1) There really aren't that many shooters of Kapono's caliber around the league that aren't superstars. 2) It is possible to draft a specialist and have him on the cheap (Luther Head/Herman/Nachbar) but he will eventually be rewarded for his services and judging by some of the veterans on this list, it'll be somewhere in the MLE range. 3) Kapono needs to shoot more! Jokes aside, this is a pretty good indicator that we did, in fact, overpay to get our specialist but not by as much as some probably thought and given the lack of quality shooters around the league and the lack of quality free agents seriously interested in signing with us this season to the MLE, it's bit easier to understand why because felt compelled to do what he did. While this may have been Kapono's best season statistically, given his age, playing time and increased role, I think he definitely has the potential to have a much better season statistically in Toronto.</div> So I won't say this is a bad signing, only because there are some shooters that have a substantially lower 3P% that are being paid more then him..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CavsRules @ Jul 2 2007, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Tahoma">Well, IMO I see Boston winning that division if they can stay healthy. Toronto wont have a better record than Cleveland or Chicago, thats going a little over the edge there. Great team, but not there yet.</span></div>I said, if we started out well last year, we probably would have had a better record than those two teams. Once again, people doubt us...I've seen this before <_<Like I said, the Celtics were sh*t last year...so it may take a while for them to really get going...we added some good pieces...were going to be a great team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 2 2007, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like I said, the Celtics were sh*t last year...so it may take a while for them to really get going...we added some good pieces...were going to be a great team.</div> I think your going to be a solid team, but nothing 'great'. The other teams in your division have improved, and the East will be tougher, I don't see you guys winning more than 45 games. Your roster is pretty much the same going into next year, which is nice because of chemistry, but when I look the roster, your still a ways away from taking that next step.
TAKE IT TO THE HOLE JOSE!we're gonna win cavsrules.. this season cleveland wont make the playoffs because lebroom will be too sad from getting swept in the playoffs.btw your a loser lebron dick rider :brucelee:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 2 2007, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think your going to be a solid team, but nothing 'great'. The other teams in your division have improved, and the East will be tougher, I don't see you guys winning more than 45 games. Your roster is pretty much the same going into next year, which is nice because of chemistry, but when I look the roster, your still a ways away from taking that next step.</div>Yeah, we won 48 games last year...and Chris Bosh, TJ Ford and Andrea Bargnani will all improve. We're going to lose Mo Pete, who didnt do much of anything last year, and maybe Juan Dixon and Joey Graham, who are below average basketball players. We got Delfino, who is a good all around bench player, and Jason Kapono, who is a top 3 shooter in the League. So I don't see how you think we're going to get WORSE? Please explain that to me. And also, Brian Colangelo is jesus as we all know, and he will also get a rebounder in here since we were dead last in that area last season.I see us winning about 50 games next season...maybe higher.Edit: Not to mention Jose will get better, and Garbajosa was just a rookie last year even though he's getting older...so I think he'll improve...maybe AP too...who knows?
o sh*t, I forgot all about andrea!this kid's amazing!although I'll admit, we're one of the teams that havent really gained much this offseason while other teams cashed in on the young draft picks, I still think with the growing chemistry we have, and the amount of experience our young players are getting we're gonna be a good team... ANDREA BARGNANI for THREE!I cant wait to see the raps play, im dyin to see andrea posterize an old player
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 2 2007, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, we won 48 games last year...and Chris Bosh, TJ Ford and Andrea Bargnani will all improve. We're going to lose Mo Pete, who didnt do much of anything last year, and maybe Juan Dixon and Joey Graham, who are below average basketball players. We got Delfino, who is a good all around bench player, and Jason Kapono, who is a top 3 shooter in the League. So I don't see how you think we're going to get WORSE? Please explain that to me. And also, Brian Colangelo is jesus as we all know, and he will also get a rebounder in here since we were dead last in that area last season.I see us winning about 50 games next season...maybe higher.Edit: Not to mention Jose will get better, and Garbajosa was just a rookie last year even though he's getting older...so I think he'll improve...maybe AP too...who knows?</div> But the teams in your conference have gotten stronger, and the East in general got better this offseason. Sure your players will improve, but I don't see your player development off-setting the stronger competition.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 2 2007, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But the teams in your conference have gotten stronger, and the East in general got better this offseason. Sure your players will improve, but I don't see your player development off-setting the stronger competition.</div>This happens every year. Everyone thinks that there will be a ton of teams that will challenge for playoff spots, but then some teams end up really disappointing, and it's the same as always...It doesn't matter because there will always be bad teams in the NBA. It's just how it works....If one team improves, another will decline. I'm not worried about the other teams in the East at all...There will be bad teams there....and we played Western And name 3 teams that are better than us in the East. I challenge you to do that.
This signing will add to our depth and the amount of 3pt shooters we have. I think this is a good signing except for the fact that he's getting paid 6M a year ..
Yeah looking back at the signing I think it will pay off in the end....just put Parker in the corner, Andrea at the top and Kapono in the opposite corner and there you have it! All three are very capable of hitting the 3 and if thats not working just penetrate the paint with TJ or Bosh.3 point shooting team (Raptors) + 3 point specialist (Kapono) = ???
As for the Celtics running away with the division title?? AHAHAHA you would have to improve by 17 wins to become a .500 ball club!!!
