Damn we always here the same story every year. The East WILL have its fair share of injuries and disappointments, I don't buy the East getting stronger theory. if one team improves another regresses. I certianly believe the Raptors will improve their 47 win total and will make people eat their words yet again
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MosDefinitely @ Jul 4 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for the Celtics running away with the division title?? AHAHAHA you would have to improve by 17 wins to become a .500 ball club!!!</div>You guys barely were a .500 ball club. So I wouldn't go calling us out.And whoever said "it's the same every year" that's complete bullsh**.Then why were the Raptors even remotely good last year? Because everything stayed the same? No they made improvements just like tons of teams in the east have.And if things are the same every year then how come in the past 5 seasons there's been 11 different teams in the top 5 seeds?DetroitMiamiBostonNew JerseyTorontoChicagoClevelandWashingtonIndianaNew OrleansPhiladelphiaToronto won the Atlantic division. Yeah that's impressive. Toronto improved because they made good additions and built around Chris Bosh the way they should.We sure won't run away with the title but I think it's gonna be Toronto fans who are eating their words when New Jersey and Boston are making you guys piss your pants as the season gets closer to a finish.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 2 2007, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And name 3 teams that are better than us in the East. I challenge you to do that.</div> Bulls, Pistons, Heat, not that hard. Cleveland and Washington are right there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 7 2007, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bulls, Pistons, Heat, not that hard. Cleveland and Washington are right there.</div>We are a better team than the Heat. We've got a much better bench now, and Shaq is always injured now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 7 2007, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys barely were a .500 ball club. So I wouldn't go calling us out.And whoever said "it's the same every year" that's complete bullsh**.Then why were the Raptors even remotely good last year? Because everything stayed the same? No they made improvements just like tons of teams in the east have.And if things are the same every year then how come in the past 5 seasons there's been 11 different teams in the top 5 seeds?DetroitMiamiBostonNew JerseyTorontoChicagoClevelandWashingtonIndianaNew OrleansPhiladelphiaToronto won the Atlantic division. Yeah that's impressive. Toronto improved because they made good additions and built around Chris Bosh the way they should.We sure won't run away with the title but I think it's gonna be Toronto fans who are eating their words when New Jersey and Boston are making you guys piss your pants as the season gets closer to a finish.</div>Yeah, just barely over .500....okay...I guess 12 games over .500 is "just barely" over nowadays....
Playa, I remember you saying the exact same thing last season coming into the season and we won the division. I dont expect things to change. For Boston to improve by as much as we did is near impossible because you guys were at a worse point than we were last season. Our only opponents are New Jersey, who did nothing to improve themselves as a team, except take Krstic off the IL which wont exactly put them over the hump.
Last season we didn't have Ray Allen and we were an injury filled team. And how are we not one of your opponents? We have arguably one of the best 3-man duos in the East.And how can we not improve as much as Toronto did? Is there some sort of limit to how much a team can improve?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 7 2007, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You do realize winning 47 games means you're 6 games over right?</div>No......We were 47-35 last season...
To add, you guys are really really overrating the Cavs and the Bulls in the regular season last year. The Cavs won 3 more games than us, and the Bulls won 2. For you to say that we are not even up there with them is ridiculous. Theres no reason to believe Toronto will win LESS than they did last year, we added pieces not took away. If we sign a rebounder this draft and a slasher, we would be a 50 win team no problem, its not that far away for us.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 7 2007, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No......We were 47-35 last season...</div>Okay I'll put it in simple terms.41-41 is a .500 record right?The raptors won 47 games47 - 41 = 6 It's just a silly mistake on your part, no big deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 7 2007, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay I'll put it in simple terms. 41-41 is a .500 record right? The raptors won 47 games 47 - 41 = 6 It's just a silly mistake on your part, no big deal.</div> Playaofthegame is right, CB4. 12 games above .500 would be 53 wins. Toronto finished 6 games above.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 7 2007, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Last season we didn't have Ray Allen and we were an injury filled team. And how are we not one of your opponents? We have arguably one of the best 3-man duos in the East.And how can we not improve as much as Toronto did? Is there some sort of limit to how much a team can improve?</div>No when you break it down, we added a future all star point gaurd in TJ Ford, a defensive sharpshooter in Anthony Parker, a defensive minded SF in Jorge, Chris Bosh was on the rise, a decent banger in Humphries who showed up big in the end of the season, Jose just totally imrpoved from last year, we had the best big man in the draft in Bargnani and we had depth, we added all those pieces to make our roster better. You guys added Ray Allen, Glen Davis, and LOST Delonte West.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 7 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay I'll put it in simple terms.41-41 is a .500 record right?The raptors won 47 games47 - 41 = 6 It's just a silly mistake on your part, no big deal.</div>No man...we played 82 games, not 88....think about it...We were 47-35...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 7 2007, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No when you break it down, we added a future all star point gaurd in TJ Ford, a defensive sharpshooter in Anthony Parker, a defensive minded SF in Jorge, Chris Bosh was on the rise, a decent banger in Humphries who showed up big in the end of the season, Jose just totally imrpoved from last year, we had the best big man in the draft in Bargnani and we had depth, we added all those pieces to make our roster better. You guys added Ray Allen, Glen Davis, and LOST Delonte West.</div>Yeah, but you also gotta add in all the injuries that they had last season...I think they'll do well...Look at all of the young talent they have...plus the trio of Jefferson, Pierce, and Allen? That's a playoff team right there if they stay healthy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 7 2007, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No man...we played 82 games, not 88....think about it... We were 47-35...</div> 41 + 41 = 82 games 47 + 35 = 82 games Same amount of wins = same amount of losses = .500 If you are 6-6, you are .500. If you are 41-41, you are .500. You need to take an extra math class this summer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jul 7 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>41 + 41 = 82 games47 + 35 = 82 gamesSame amount of wins = same amount of losses = .500If you are 6-6, you are .500. If you are 41-41, you are .500. You need to take an extra math class this summer.</div>I don't understand your point here...If a team is 47-35 than they are 12 games over .500...
Ive been saying bringing in a vet who can basically play the same position as Pierce (I know he doesn't) is a wrong move. They both have the same mentality on the floor, and wont compliment eachother. Im telling you guys both of them wont average 25+ ppg only one will. Its like larry hughes and lebron james (no im not comparing them to ray allen and pierce) BUT larry hughes plays exactly like Lebron, just Lebron does it better. Larry hughes is not a pass first point gaurd, and prefers to score first. Lebron as youve seen is a forward that prefers to pass first, therefore, when it should be Hughes doing the passing and Lebron doing the scoring it should be reversed, they dont compliment each other.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 7 2007, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand your point here...If a team is 47-35 than they are 12 games over .500...</div>This is such a dumb argument.As the wins increase, your losses decrease.41-41 = .50042-40 = 1 game over43-39 = 2 games over44-38 = 3 games over45-37 = 4 games over46-36 = 5 games over47-35 = 6 games over
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 7 2007, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't understand your point here...If a team is 47-35 than they are 12 games over .500...</div> Its different if youre in the middle of the season vs. finished. If you played 82 games (and arent playing anymore), the .500 mark is 41 games. Our win percentage (47/82) is .573
