Politics Official: Trump Impeached

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Fez Hammersticks, Dec 18, 2019.

Moderators: 7

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
  7. Strenuus
Page 10 of 19
  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Cheeseburger?

    Michael Jordan is the GOAT?
     
    bodyman5000 and 1, Dec 20, 2019
    #181
  2. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I disagree...term limits will definitely help. Not every elected official is a crook, even though it may seem that way to some.
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #182
  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,037
    Likes Received:
    24,908
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    If not every elected official is a crook (which I agree with you on), then why do you want to get rid of all of them? One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch girl.

    What makes you think there would be fewer crooks in the replacement group?

    barfo
     
    barfo, Dec 20, 2019
    #183
  4. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The whole Ukraine thing was a conspiracy theory piloted by Trump and it has been debunked. But Trump won't believe his own people/intel. So we've got what we've got now.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2019
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #184
  5. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    lol..well, I suppose one good cliche deserves another..."If you wanna make an omelette, you gotta break a few eggs". :bgrin:

    I also believe that even good people can be tempted if they are in Washington long enough.
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #185
  6. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    bodyman5000 and 1, Dec 20, 2019
    #186
  7. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #187
  8. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Read the opinion piece I just linked.

    Yes. Hunter was on the board. No it wasn't illegal for him to be on the board per Ukranian law.

    Whoopty do. The lady who wrote the piece I linked thinks what Trump did is worse.
     
    bodyman5000 and 1, Dec 20, 2019
    #188
  9. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "Whoopty do" pretty much sums it up.
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #189
  10. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    You didn't read it did you?
     
    bodyman5000 and 1, Dec 20, 2019
    #190
    MARIS61 likes this.
  11. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,654
    Likes Received:
    17,895
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I realize that assholes are elected. But the voting public has yet to vote out the multitudes that are bought by lobbyist. If you keep big money out of elections and two party committees that basically are beholden to big media money, that would help. And because Tom the billionaire can afford to buy his way on to the debate stage just doesn't seem fair. Campaign finance rules need to change. The whole thing now seems like a beauty pageant run by media the two committees. You really want those elected to be in office for 40 50 60 years?
     
    Hoopguru, Dec 20, 2019
    #191
  12. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I read enough of Mad Magazine when I was a kid.
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #192
  13. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ^^^ Exactly...even when some representatives are first elected they may very well have good intentions...but the temptation will likely eventually find them. Some give in to the temptation, some do not.
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #193
  14. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,037
    Likes Received:
    24,908
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    If they are good, I don't mind if they are in office for 60 years. If they are bad I don't want them in office at all.

    I agree with everything you say about money in elections.

    barfo
     
    barfo, Dec 20, 2019
    #194
    Lanny likes this.
  15. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,037
    Likes Received:
    24,908
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    Would you support term limits at your place of work? That is, everybody gets fired, say, 4 years after they were hired?
    Would that make the place function better? Would the constant stream of fresh employees invigorate the place? Or would nobody know what they are doing? Would you have wanted to take the job in the first place knowing that you would have to start looking for your next opportunity soon?

    The problem I have with term limits is that lobbyists don't have term limits and there is no way to impose them. Give the legislators term limits, and the lobbyists will have all the institutional knowledge, and thus will be more powerful, not less. Also the lobbyists will be 'helping' the legislators find jobs after their term expires. They do that now, but they'll be able to do it even more frequently. And that help comes at a cost to us.

    barfo
     
    barfo, Dec 20, 2019
    #195
  16. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    C'mon barf...equating term limits at work to the shit that goes on in Washington?...I know it was intended as some sort of analogy but I don't think it's a fair one. I, for one, have never been offered a bribe in the workplace.

    No one is saying that term limits will solve everything but it' would be a damn sight better than what we have in place now.
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #196
    Hoopguru likes this.
  17. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,037
    Likes Received:
    24,908
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    It will make it worse, in my opinion for the reasons expressed above. Simple example: If we didn't have term limits on the presidency, we'd probably have Obama rather than Trump right now.

    But we can disagree to agree, or however that goes.

    barfo
     
    barfo, Dec 20, 2019
    #197
  18. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2013
    Messages:
    30,827
    Likes Received:
    13,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I understand what you're saying...but hey, we have "term limits" on the POTUS, why not eveyone else?

    But you're right, we can civilly agree to disagree on this topic. :cheers:
     
    yankeesince59, Dec 20, 2019
    #198
  19. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,951
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    I don't like somebody telling me that my man has been in office too long and he can no longer represent me. As long as they meet the legal standards I should be free to choose whomever I want including Barfo for President.
     
    Lanny, Dec 20, 2019
    #199
  20. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,037
    Likes Received:
    24,908
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    ??? How could you ever want anyone other than me for President?

    barfo
     
    barfo, Dec 20, 2019
    #200
Page 10 of 19

Share This Page