Politics The Inherent Pitfalls of Tribalism. Vol. 1: Dogwhistles.

I would have been an Explorer except we moved before I was I turned 12 and there were no readily available Boy Scout troops. I was the kind of kid growing up where mothers of other boys would not worry when their sons said they were playing with me.

 

Fuck this shit is right. Did I miss the thread about this guy?

 

I'd stay there all day until the owner came back if I saw something like that in real life.

Would good be a good way to get your car totaled if you were upside down on it though.

If not insurance scam and totally real the person needs to have a mental health evaluation, home inspection.

 

So, yes, it is one thing to be the so-called white knight and swoop in to save the people of color and ironically make it about you, those who people call SJWs (Social Justice Warriors). They are like hypercritical, societal auditors. I'm not talking about that, and I'm definitely not like that.

I'm talking about clear racism. I'm talking about Trump and what his brand of racism has done to this country, how it has emboldened people to act on their prejudices and how incredibly destabilizing that has been, and how little people we have done about it.

 

People can only take the Trump blame game so far. When both sides are running around being complete dipshits maybe it’s time to look in the mirror rather than pointing the finger elsewhere. I see all these toxic, divisive people who clamor on about how divisive Trump is and it seems like they are just using it as an excuse to justify their own shit behavior.

 

Yes, but that's a bigger, much muddier topic. It's also an example of the tribalism I'm talking about and the "he did it first" or "they do it too" attitude that does nothing but deepen the divide.

I'm arguing something that if we discuss it long enough, I'm sure we will all agree on: Trump is a racist. There is ample concrete evidence of this. Now, whether that matters to you is another matter. I know plenty of conservatives and I respect those who don't pretend that Trump is a good guy. Otherwise, it's disingenuous, and therefore masking what? Complicity? I just think people underestimate how frustrating it can be.

I mean, is the point of talking politics in the forum to burn the other side? To say "Haha! Got you!"? I don't think so. I like opposing positions as long as they are fair and honest. It takes trust to admit the obvious sometimes. And I'll make concessions. Try me. I feel like there is always a way to phrase your point so that will make sense to someone on the other side, so that they'll respect it. You just have to find it.

 

Fair enough. I just don’t buy into all of the hype around him, whether it be good or bad. He’s not the savior of America, nor is he a cartoon super villain with diabolical, world-ending schemes. He’s just another in a long line of selfish dickhead politicians who exploit taxpayers.

 

But racists believe that different races are different species. Am I right or am I right.

 

Trump "is a POS"....and "a war criminal".

EOM

 

So all I have to do is find a president I don’t like and do bad things and use that president to justify it and its the presidents fault. Good to know.

 

That's not jumping to conclusions that's leap frogging to conclusions.

 

Is it? He’s basically on the premise that Trump is bad because people use his existence to justify their crappy behavior. So...

 

No, he is saying that Trump is bad because of all the bad things that he does. Looks pretty much like straight forward logic to me.
So you're saying that because of legal action taken against the Trump Foundation, Trump University, Trump's racial decisions not to sell or rent to Blacks, his multitude of lies every day, his repeated violations of the Constitution and laws, his violation of the emoluments clause, his wild eyed spending binge, his tax cuts for the wealthy, his damage to the country and on and on and on and on make him not a shitty person?

 

Thats not what he said though so...

 

I interpreted it to mean that the shitty behavior was referring to Trump's shitty behavior or shitty behavior instantiated by Trump followers.
That's another of Trump's shitty behavior that I left out and that's how he uses dog whistles to incite his cult to do shitty things.

 

1. Trump is different than any President during my life. He truly is a villain in a literal sense. Racism is what I'm focussing on in this thread, but there are other things.

2. His verifiable racism emboldens people. So, say you have racist thoughts but all of society tells you that such thoughts are not okay and are against the moral code (or whatever you want to call it), say acting on it makes you a fanatic or a lunatic or a pariah. Society has this nifty ability to keep people in line, because there are consequences for such behavior. And here is where Trump is poison and here is the point of this whole thread: Trump tears down those walls and allows people to act on their worst tendencies without consequences. It's utter madness. I'd argue, and I'm here to argue, that supporting such a man detracts from who you are, regardless of your political alignment.