Ray Allen ISNT INJURY PRONE and injuries haven't caused him problems through his career like people are suggesting. He had freaking minor surgery on his ankles, just like plenty of players in the league do every year. Those same players come back the next year and perform, unless they've been chronic their entire career. This is a one time injury for Allen. So you can't be 30 and have minor surgery without having to go to the morg?He's played in 790 out of 870 games in his 11 year career. That's 91% of the games in his CAREER. He's been durable since he joined the league, even having a 5-season straight without missing a game streak. There's been 2 seasons where he has missed considerable time. That's it.So what is the excuse for everybody's sudden expertice on Ray Allen being injury prone and a negative to a team just because he went to the Boston Celtics? Nobody was even talking about Allen's injuries before he was traded to Boston. He was still regarded as the best 3 point shooter in the NBA and still is the best 3-point shooter in the NBA.When he did play last season he showed no signs of slowing down, throwing up 54 points against the Jazz.So once again, why is everybody suddenly fearing Allen's injury problems, when nobody talked about it before the trade? I'd like an explanation.
Because the Sonics had no chance of doing anything. With the Celtics, a bigger market team, he will be under a bigger microscope and on a team that actually has a chance to make some noise. So of course things like injuries will be blown out of proportion (although 2 of the last 4 years he has missed about 30 games).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BottomOfDaMapTX @ Jul 2 2007, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ray Allen isn't the best 3-point shooter in the league anymore. Dirk is better than Ray Allen.</div>Ray not be the absolute best 3-point shooter in the league anymore but Dirk isn't either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BottomOfDaMapTX @ Jul 2 2007, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ray Allen isn't the best 3-point shooter in the league anymore. Dirk is better than Ray Allen.</div>I disagree. I think Ray Allen is still the best shooter in the NBA. He's pretty efficient, he's got textbook form, a quick release, and his body is perfectly square every single time he shoots the ball. No doubt he's still the best shooter in the NBA, IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jul 3 2007, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. I think Ray Allen is still the best shooter in the NBA. He's pretty efficient, he's got textbook form, a quick release, and his body is perfectly square every single time he shoots the ball. No doubt he's still the best shooter in the NBA, IMO.</div>Couldn't agree more. Just because he doesn't shoot as high a % as a Jason Kopono doesn't mean he's not the best - his shots are almost never open ones like the league leaders in% are.He can get it off in a flash and can shoot comin off a screen from deep in the blink of an eye. His drinving is underated so is his passing. His shooting touch opens the floor because he can consistantly hit from 5feet beyond the arc- wasn't utilised very well in seattle with Rashard recently and radmon and the like previously playing a more perimeter type of game. In Boston he will be dynamite for them. With peirce's ability to inside or outside and thier young big man(Big al ) pounding away inside it ray will give them more room- He is also one of the games best "Zone breakers"This was an awesome move by the celts- they got rid of overpaid wally as well.Ray's surgery was minor and I believe that had he been on a winning team last season he would havew missed less games. I mean whats the point of coming back fast if your team isn;t going to make the playoffs?
Ray Allen is still the best shooter and one of the most efficient shooters in the NBA and I agree that he isn't injury prone.If I remember right, last year (maybe two years ago) he got the single season record for 3's which shows he isn't wearing down. He would have done good this year if not bothered with injuries.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BottomOfDaMapTX @ Jul 2 2007, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ray Allen isn't the best 3-point shooter in the league anymore. Dirk is better than Ray Allen.</div> :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: Ray Allen is the best shooter in the NBA.
I think all the talk about Ray Allen being injury prone is mostly centered around his injuries that occured last season. Him rarely being on the court last season gave the Sonics no chance of making the playoffs. However, you can't take last year for granted. Despite Allen saying that his knee's are at 100% it's still possible, at this late stage of his career, that he injures that same knee and it becomes a recurring injury.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Jul 3 2007, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think all the talk about Ray Allen being injury prone is mostly centered around his injuries that occured last season. Him rarely being on the court last season gave the Sonics no chance of making the playoffs. However, you can't take last year for granted. Despite Allen saying that his knee's are at 100% it's still possible, at this late stage of his career, that he injures that same knee and it becomes a recurring injury.</div>It was his ankles. If it were a knee injury we wouldn't have traded for him in the first place. Ankle injuries are much less serious and more common around players in the NBA. They're easy to surgically repair and easy to rehab.
remember, the surgery was only to remove bone spurs. Plenty of players have bounced back from this surgery and done great, including Al Jefferson. He was struggling until the surgery, then he was fine. Now I know he is a lot younger, but still, the point is people can bounce back from a bone spur surgery.and yes, ray allen is the best pure shooter in the league. He is efficient, he has a very quick release, and can hit from all around the floor, including very deep. I remember seeing him hit a buzzer-beater from about 28 feet away in the 152-149 win over the suns. After that many over times, if he still had the strength/legs to make a 28-footer, you know he can shoot.
Who knew it only took a few months to go from having a career scoring year(26.4 ppg, not to shabby) to being washed up...
or.. a few minutes. right when he was traded to the celtics. god, people just try to look at the reasons why it won't work. it's sad.
Any moron that can pull up his statistics can see that he's been durable, I don't see why this is an issue at all.
When Ray Allen played for the bucks he was a better three point shooter. He now has turned into a all around player that tried to help the sonics but it didnt work. I hope paul and ray will help the celts do what they can do get far into the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (And1Ba11a @ Jul 6 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When Ray Allen played for the bucks he was a better three point shooter. He now has turned into a all around player that tried to help the sonics but it didnt work.</div> I don't agree. Ray Allen's been essentially the exact same player since he's been in Seattle, the only thing thats changed is that he's shooting more and had to carry more of the load.
I can agree with that bcb. he's had more pressure put on him in the offense in seattle, and also the offense is a lot faster paced in seattle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (And1Ba11a @ Jul 6 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When Ray Allen played for the bucks he was a better three point shooter. He now has turned into a all around player that tried to help the sonics but it didnt work. I hope paul and ray will help the celts do what they can do get far into the playoffs.</div>Like BCB said, I think he's the same player he was in Milwaukee, except more mature. As for your comment about "he tried to help Seattle, but it didn't work" - are you aware that 2 years ago he took them to the Western Conference Semi-Finals with a mediocre supporting cast?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jul 7 2007, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like BCB said, I think he's the same player he was in Milwaukee, except more mature. As for your comment about "he tried to help Seattle, but it didn't work" - are you aware that 2 years ago he took them to the Western Conference Semi-Finals with a mediocre supporting cast?</div>If it wasn't for Ray Allen we would see the Sonics in the top 3 draft picks every season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jul 2 2007, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ray Allen ISNT INJURY PRONE and injuries haven't caused him problems through his career like people are suggesting. He had freaking minor surgery on his ankles, just like plenty of players in the league do every year. Those same players come back the next year and perform, unless they've been chronic their entire career. This is a one time injury for Allen. So you can't be 30 and have minor surgery without having to go to the morg?He's played in 790 out of 870 games in his 11 year career. That's 91% of the games in his CAREER. He's been durable since he joined the league, even having a 5-season straight without missing a game streak. There's been 2 seasons where he has missed considerable time. That's it.So what is the excuse for everybody's sudden expertice on Ray Allen being injury prone and a negative to a team just because he went to the Boston Celtics? Nobody was even talking about Allen's injuries before he was traded to Boston. He was still regarded as the best 3 point shooter in the NBA and still is the best 3-point shooter in the NBA.When he did play last season he showed no signs of slowing down, throwing up 54 points against the Jazz.So once again, why is everybody suddenly fearing Allen's injury problems, when nobody talked about it before the trade? I'd like an explanation.</div> I was just bowsing the web for info on Allen's injuries and came upon your post. Incredible. I don't beleive I have ever read a post with so much WRONG information presented as facts. 1: Allen has played 12 years not 11. That means 984 total games. 2: Even if it was 11 year that would be 902 games not 870. 3: Allen has NEVER had steak of 5-season straight without missing a game. His best was 2 years in a row. 4: There have been FIVE season not two where he missed considerable time. IE: over a quarter of the season. 32 games, 25 games, 53, games 26 games and 27 games. 5: Allen had not missed 80 games in his career he has missed 176 ! More then twice what you claim. 6: So instead of playing 91% (790 of 870) He has played closer to 80% or less (790 of 994). Funny thing is I agee Allen's current injury is minor and that he will be fine for his first season with teh C's.
