Politics War with Iran

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    We aren't the enemy. They want us scared so they can pick and choose any enemy they want and profit the most.

    So Russia could theoretically nuke us so fast we wouldn't know what his us at first? So what? We'd still have subs and silos to launch a counter attack eventually.

    Wake me up when Putin can kill us all without Russia suffering as well.

    We'll catch up to them if we aren't already way way ahead...which we probably are.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    There was no time to get any military aid to the Ambassador when he was killed in Benghazi. Before that his security detail said he shouldn't go to Benghazi and when he did go he refused any additional military help. During the attack the NATO commanding general and the commanding general of the U.S. in Africa all said that once the conflict began there was no time to get aid to the Ambassador. This was echoed by the CIA, the State Department and other U.S. military generals.
    (OBL) not (UBL).
    Read what acting director of the CIA, Michael Morell, had to say about this. I've posted it at least three times in here.
     
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    Take a guess.
     
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    Gotta agree with every point except the first one. It started before the attack on our embassy. The attack was just another in a long series of criminal acts.
     
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    Saw him perform that song at The Crystal Ballroom I think 67.
     
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    WTF, doesn't he need Congressional approval before doing this?

    He just started a freaking war.

    Get him out of office already.

    How much do you want to bet this was purely political for Uncle Donald? Drop a bunch of bombs, claim this is for "their freedom" and then restore his place as the world's policeman.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Yup...@Natebishop3 said essentially same thing in the post # 2 of this thread.
     
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    Very interesting.
     
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    Those tweets are exactly why common sense people would not elect the wordsmith of bullshit. However, he got in the back door with the electoral college votes, of which, he could again.
     
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    I dont want to assume.
     
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    That could be a point, but he was on the US list of known terrorists, as was bin Laden. Obama's decision to take bin Laden out involved actively committing US forces and equipment to operate within Pakistani territory without Pakistan's approval. At least in this instance, I believe the US has authorization for military actions in Iraq.
     
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    Understandable. I would say that current tensions between the White House and Dems in Congress have trust at an all time low.
     
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    I think the issue is not about whether the US had authorization to act in the specific location, so much as whether the action against the specific individual might reasonably be considered an act of war. An operation against OBL really couldn't, whereas this certainly can.
     
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    I remember singing that song early in the morning on a VA bus as a few of us Vietnam vets were headed to the hospital. I haven't felt a bond so close to a group of men in decades. One of those men fell hitting his head at home. They took him to the hospital where he died from brain swelling while he was in the ICU. That broke my heart and I cried.
     
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    We all know who he meant. Your first guess is almost certainly right.
     

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