Facing facts

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  1. Binx

    Binx Well-Known Member

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    I’ve watched almost every game this year, and our flaws are pretty evident by now:

    Weak 3-point shooting: Let’s face it. Most teams in the NBA have better 3-point shooters than we do. Night after night, the opposing team kills us with timely 3-point shots.

    Porous defense: We can’t stop anybody, even lousy teams who are missing their best players.

    Lack of effort: we consistently get out-worked by other teams, who seem to want it worse than we do.

    Too many players who like to go one-on-one, which more often than not hurts us.

    That’s it. And that’s more than enough to keep us under .500 for the entire year.
     
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  2. Neil O. Shyster

    Neil O. Shyster Well-Known Member

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    Nothing will change until we trade CJ... DEAD LAST in entire NBA in assist for 2 of last 3 seasons... unbelievable how little they pass
     
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    You don't need to trade CJ to implement a system in which everyone shares the ball. Replacing CJ with Simons won't suddenly make us get more assists.
     
  4. Neil O. Shyster

    Neil O. Shyster Well-Known Member

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    We can agree to disagree... CJ has said he is going to pass more than 5 years now and nothing has changed. He is going to be 29 next season. He will never change... ISO is in his DNA.
     
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  5. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    no assists is on stotts not cj. players are playing according to stotts game plan. they aren't out there going rogue
     
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    I think a bit of it has to do with the trade deadline. I think certain players know they are going. I also think certain players are hoping they will go somewhere else.
    The team is completely out of sorts.
     
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    This seems to be the running narrative. But players still got to make shots.
     
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    They might be.... but they also know there are no repercussions for going rogue.

    Still a Stotts issue
     
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    C.J. is a great player. His problem is ... he doesn't use his brain well. Too many poor decisions.
     
  10. bobf

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    We had CJ last year and did fine.
     
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    and that may very well have been the high water mark for the team...getting swept in the WCF
     
  12. bobf

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    Wouldn’t have been if we had found a way to keep most of the team together. We invested all those years in players and just when it was starting to gel we went moronically berserk.
     
  13. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Accountability is an issue. They need a coach that is not afraid to call them out by name in press conferences like Brett Brown and Mike Malone do.
     
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  14. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I disagree here, I think that was as good as it was going to get with those guys as much as Aminu and Harkless were good defenders, they needed to upgrade at least one of them with an offensive player, maybe they didnt need to flush the whole supporting cast, but I believe that offensively that was the worst forward combo of any of the top 10-15 nba teams. It handcuffed them a lot, I know weve had this convo, I was good with starting one of them, but not both. Heck Start, Aminu and Hood, that seemed like a combo that could work. Just think that starting combo needed someone who could create a little, because even tho there 3% percentages werent bad they werent even great floor spacers because a hard close out usually meant they were taking a contested 3 or resetting as neither could effectively put the ball on the floor. I think they combined to average like 15ppg...
     
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    I think Harkless was and is a better player than Hood and better in our starting lineup due to his defense. I agree it wasn’t ideal. I would put Hark & Aminu at somewhat above average for starters which would put them less than average for top teams. But you can’t have everything. We had an elite PG and a young near-elite center and a decent SG. And we had huge depth and versatility on the bench.

    If I’m wrong and Hood is better fit in the starting lineup then fine. Start Hood and let Hark come off the bench. Start Collins and let Aminu come off the bench. Play with it and see what works best. But don’t lose quality players for trash. They are assets. Very hard to come by. I’m all for UPGRADE. Trade CJ, Aminu, Hark if it’s an actual upgrade. But we didn’t upgrade. Hassan was probably sideways and he doesn’t fit once Nurk comes back.

    The reason I think we’d get better... Nurk and Collins are young and bound to get better. Many of our other players were still making marginal improvements. No one was in their declining years. Any of Iur young guys might turn into players. One more year of chemistry. How could we not get better?
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    I disagree. Hood is much better than Harkless in my opinion.
     
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    As an overall player? They're close, but Hood gets the nod.

    As a SF, Harkless is better. As a PF, Harkless is definitely better.
     
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    I think offense is a lot easier to notice than defense. Best advanced stats consistently have Harkless as better. In the playoffs, when scoring gets really tough, that’s a plus for Hood. Either way, whoever’s better was not my main point. We net gave up a ton of talent and we are losing now. Our old team was 53 wins and getting better. This team IMO will win about 44 games with Nurk and Collins and Hood unless our young players really blossom. That’s a a fine starting lineup (though not necessarily as good as with Hark & Aminu) but we have no depth.
     
  19. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I think our bench / depth looks much better if some of these guys are playing the roles their good at and were meant to play, unfortunately injuries destroyed the little bit of depth they had, but I wouldnt under estimate how much roles play a part in the current shortcomings. Like Tolliver looks terrible but he’s playing a lot of his minutes completely out of position. It would be one thing if he was rediculously talented, but he’s not he’s a journeyman SF. Ill say this for Aminu he had figured out his role, and when Harkless felt like showing up he fit with Dame and CJ too.
     
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    It was the high water mark with that team. Hence all of the acquiring of easier to trade contracts...
     

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