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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    illmatic99, Jan 20, 2020
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Holy hell, this is some kinda warped reality we're living in to have this kinda opinion.
     
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    His thinking is right on the money. IMHO, yours isn't....
     
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    Warped Iron!
     
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    This is a bit out of topic - but this idea stands against the entire idea of capitalism as we know it. If information is free - there are no patents, no-one can have a unique way of doing stuff - it is a gateway to communism right there.

    Information is not free, how the legal owner chooses to share it is up to them - and as a consumer you can vote with your hard-earned money anyway you want. If their business model does not work - they will either cease to be or change it - but the very idea that private concern's information should be free is rather un-capitalistic, imho.
     
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    Because capitalism as a way to transfer information is such a good way to go.
     
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    What is inside patents is “just information”. Should that be given away for free as well?

    Capitalism has issues but so does every economic model.
     
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    Patents are original ideas. Not knowledge already printed or known. Of course someone should get paid for an INVENTION. I should not get paid for printing and selling someone else's invention on some website. I see the difference. Do you?

    Libraries are free. The people who invented items discussed in books in a library got paid via the patent.

    So in your opinion, people with less money should not have access to knoweldge people with money have? I think that is a much worse long term idealogy than having all knowledge free. Not inventions. knowledge.
     
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    If it is already printed, it is not an issue - you can get it from there.

    If it is not known - somebody worked to get this info, organize it, publish. It is their prerogative to decide how to be compensated for this work. It is their original work. There is no difference imho, they can choose how to be compensated for their work, otherwise, communism.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Libraries aren't 'free'. Your tax dollars pay for them. In theory, a library could decide to provide Jason Quick's articles as just as well as a book on naval warfare in WWII.

    Why shouldn't publishers get paid? Do you think that publishers don't need to eat? Or do you think publishing is worthless?

    What about other services? Do you think janitors shouldn't get paid? They certainly aren't inventing anything. They didn't build the bathroom, or the toilet.

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    I wish these pay sites would offer their info ala cart. I would throw a few bucks at an article or a certain writers stuff but I cringe at having to pay a recurring bill when I may not have time to read my subscription as consistently as the money out of pocket would make me want. So many services are Nickel and dime these days and that shit adds up. Seems like these sites could earn enough off of site ads to make the knowledge available to all.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It turns out that didn't work well, and the trend is to move away from advertising to a subscription model. I'm not in that business, but my limited understanding is that if you build your business based on 'clicks', then you are inexorably driven towards providing content that gets more clicks, which often isn't the same thing as providing quality content. And you have lots more competition for clicks, whereas if you focus on your publishing niche, you aren't competing with pictures of cleavage and stories about Prince Harry. Whereas subscribers subscribe because they are interested in what you publish, so there's a decent chance of retaining them as subscribers. Makes the revenue more predictable.

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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I remember as a kid thinking they should sell stuff individually (for TV), and now that they do, if you want the same shows but not have cable, you really aren't saving a ton.

    For example,D ain't worth 6 or 7 $ a month. And now you can get CBS, NBC, HBO, Netflix, Amazon Prime (and extra channels with that), Hulu...
     
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    you just defined OLive
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Just as an update on this, I see in the news that The Athletic has raised a $50M investment at a $500M valuation. So, apparently the subscription model is working well for them.

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    Well it isn't working for me. The second I click something and hit a paywall I immediately think, "Fuck You. I'm trying to read your bullshit, not pay for it."
     
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    Same here, and probably the same for most people. However... I do subscribe to a couple things where I really really care about the content, and I guess that's true of enough other people to make it work.

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