Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I personally think you don't, just look at the fact that Shaq only played in 41 games, and they still only finished with three less wins than the Raptors did. This year, while he will miss games, I think he will end up playing up around 50-55 games and we will see them squeeze out a few more wins. As for the Raptors, they won't run away with things in their division like they did last year. The Nets can easily pass you guys for the division lead, the Knicks have gotten more talented, and the Celtics got a big jump with Ray Allen. So they may even loose more games this year than they did last year, since they have to play 16 games against these four teams that have gotten better. Whereas with the Heat, the Magic are the only team in the division that has improved enough to give them a run for their money. The Wizards stayed pat, and are now the third best in the division in my opinion. Jason Richardson was nice, but the Bobcats are still not up enough to really compete, and with the Hawks upgrading through rookies, they will unquestionably struggle at times, because of young players. I think the Magic have a good chance of being better than the Raptors this year, and I definately think the Heat will be better.</div>Hmm...I disagree...I think we're going to improve. We upgraded our bench with Delfino and Kapono...and Bryan Colangelo still isn't done yet either...Mo is leaving...but Joey and Juan are also likely going to be sent of of town.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! You guys are upgrading your bench, with one person that didn't get much playing time with the Heat before this past year and was only playing because of injuries this past year. Minus three point shooting Kapono does little else, is not good at creating his own shot, and does not play good defense. The other person you got, is an inconsistent at best bench player in Delfino who also doesn't do much good on the court. You guys are still going to be a bad defensive team, and soft on the inside.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 6 2007, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are upgrading your bench, with one person that didn't get much playing time with the Heat before this past year and was only playing because of injuries this past year. Minus three point shooting Kapono does little else, is not good at creating his own shot, and does not play good defense. The other person you got, is an inconsistent at best bench player in Delfino who also doesn't do much good on the court. You guys are still going to be a bad defensive team, and soft on the inside.</div>Yeah, but he's an upgrade over Juan Dixon, who only shoots...and he can't even make his shots. Kapono led the league in 3pt%, so it will atleast be helpful off the bench. And Delfino is multi dimensional. He can be tenacious, and he can also hit shots as well. He's a young player and should improve.And you're forgetting that TJ, Bosh, and Andrea will all improve..especially Andrea. He'll probably be more versatile this year in terms of scoring under the basket.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 4 2007, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>However BCB, I think this has one of the most blatanly homeristic things in it. To say the Bucks are in a class above Orlando is retarded.</div> I didn't put Milwaukee ahead of Orlando, I simply said that Orlando (and Charlotte) is one of my wildcard teams, I don't know if they are in the top 4 with that group, or somewhere just below them...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 3 2007, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.</div>
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are upgrading your bench, with one person that didn't get much playing time with the Heat before this past year and was only playing because of injuries this past year. Minus three point shooting Kapono does little else, is not good at creating his own shot, and does not play good defense. The other person you got, is an inconsistent at best bench player in Delfino who also doesn't do much good on the court. You guys are still going to be a bad defensive team, and soft on the inside.</div> Your also forgetting we were missing Jorge Garbajosa for a good chunk of the season. He was our best defender next to Anthony Parker. You also forget that Delfino/Kapono really never had much PT last year, here in Toronto they will get plenty, and will be regulars in our rotation. Its also not even halfway into the offseason yet....and you know Bryan Colangelo is the best GM in the NBA, if he sees that there is a void in the lineup, he will fix it.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 6 2007, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.</div>Oops, I didn't read that last part, next time I might need to do that.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your also forgetting we were missing Jorge Garbajosa for a good chunk of the season. He was our best defender next to Anthony Parker. You also forget that Delfino/Kapono really never had much PT last year, here in Toronto they will get plenty, and will be regulars in our rotation. Its also not even halfway into the offseason yet....and you know Bryan Colangelo is the best GM in the NBA, if he sees that there is a void in the lineup, he will fix it.</div>Even with Garbajosa you guys were not a good rebounding team, was soft inside, and was still not a good defensive team. I really don't see having him back changing any of that. As for Kapono, he got plenty of playing time this past season. In it, he only proved to be a three point shooter, with average athleticism at best, and he was not good at any thing else. Then with Delfino, your right, he didn't get much playing time. Some players need more time to settle down and not play so nervously, and that may work for Delfino. However, in the time he did get, he really didn't show much at all. He definately didn't show that tenacious side that CB4 is talking about.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! Most Pistons fans didn't mind that Carlos Delfino was traded, that has to tell you something.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! The Knicks will be in the mix for the 8th seed come to the last week of the season. Probably about 38-41 wins.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your also forgetting we were missing Jorge Garbajosa for a good chunk of the season. He was our best defender next to Anthony Parker. You also forget that Delfino/Kapono really never had much PT last year, here in Toronto they will get plenty, and will be regulars in our rotation. Its also not even halfway into the offseason yet....and you know Bryan Colangelo is the best GM in the NBA, if he sees that there is a void in the lineup, he will fix it.</div>The only advantage the Raptors had on their opponents were their two-headed monster at PG in Ford and Calderon. Outside of those two headaches, the Raptors are fairly mediocre. Either Boston or NJ wins the Atlantic barring major injuries. I do pick Toronto winning the division because history shows NJ can't stay healthy. And neither can Boston.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Let Em Hear This @ Jul 5 2007, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think getting Randolph catapulted the Knicks into championship contention by any stretch of the imagination, but I do believe at the very least they are playoff contenders. Zach Randolph doesn't shoot a horrible percentage for a PF that has range up to around 18 feet. I do, however, believe the Knicks can at least maintain a .500 record for the better part of the season, and that would be enough to secure them an 8th seed. People are referring to the Curry-Randolph tandem to be the "Black Hole". And sadly, that is true. For the reason that, neither one can pass at all from the post. But I think the one that really needs to learn how to pass from the post is Curry. He'll still be the team's focal point. Randolph doesn't need to lead the team in shots every night like he did with Portland. And most likely he's gonna have more open looks because the opposing team's defense will be focused on Curry. So his shooting percentage will more than likely go up.Also, valo, I don't think the Wizards will be bottom-feeders. I think they'll win their division this season. They were plagued with injuries all season long. Players were in and out of the lineup. I think this is how the season will end:1. Chicago2. Detroit3. Washington4. Toronto (due to division setup)5. Cleveland6. Orlando7. Miami8. Everyone else will fight for this spotMiami wasn't doing all that well even when Wade was healthy. They're just a really old team. They haven't added any pieces to help out. And with this new age of small ball, their oldtimers just won't be able to keep up.</div>Lets see my prediction for the East Next Season:1. Detroit2. New Jersey 3. Orlando/Washington4. Chicago/Cleveland5. Chicago/Cleveland6. Toronto 7. Orlando/Washington8. Miami/New YorkReason for Detroit in #1 Seed because of Chemistry and Experience with one another.Reason for New Jersey in #2 Seed because if kept healthy (Key Word for them) opposing teams can not use their PF players to defend the guards and SF because Jamaal Magloire is a proven scorer; his game (or was) can be compared to how David Lee plays and now there wont be offensive baggage like Jason Collins. (Time to play Chess match with the New Jersey Nets Bench)Orlando problem will be chemistry thats about it since they have the talent in the PG, SF, PF, and C position (If they keep Turk). Washington like New Jersey needs to keep healthy to show the effectiveness of their team. Both these teams are missing a key player for a position in the case of Washington its to have a rebounding presence in the center position since they just have mediocre center players under their disposal.Chicago was a dominate team because the East lacked talented Big Men this allowed P.J. Brown to actually "dominate" the glass. Chicago will now have two offensive baggages in Ben Wallace and P.J. Brown. Cleveland has the same situation as Chicago that Cleveland has an aged talented center in Big Z and now the East has gain some talent in the big man position.Toronto Ladies and Gents is no longer a surprise with a very versatile team but during the 1st round the New Jersey Nets shown the NBA league the weakness of the Toronto Raptors which is if Chris Bosh is made to become a 15-20 ft. jump shooter the team's chance of winning is unlikely to become the outcome. Toronto like New Jersey and Washington the biggest concern is health concerns in their rosters.Miami has become another year older reminds me more like the 2004-2005 Los Angeles Lakers with a roster composed of Gary Payton and Karl Malone which in the end contributed to nothing and lost the chance to win a championship against the Detroit Pistons. Miami were unable to find an agreement with Jason Kapono a huge help off the bench and now Dwayne Wade most likely to miss the beginning of the season for the Miami Heats. New York biggest concern will not be troubles outside the court but what happens within the court, best way to put this is the Knicks are missing two components in the game of Basketball which is Chemistry and Defense. I was watching the summer league online for all the teams and I did like how the Knicks Randolph Morris, Ronaldo Balkman, and Wilson Chandler played defensively and it seems that the Knicks are growing a second David Lee Numbers in the Back-Up Center Position in Randolph Morris who almost averaged a double-double in the Summer League. The Knicks made a team without thinking thoroughly which player they were going to build the team around since 1st it was Stephon Marbury and now it seems to be shifted to Eddy Curry's team. This lack of concentration and dedication to a player since the point guard position starter could have been Mardy Collin who I was really impressed with in the last couple of games he started in and shocked many spectators.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! I predict that the Knicks will make the playoffs but only as a 7th or 8th seed...hopefully Raldolph will perform well and not end up a waste of money like most players Isiah brought into the Knicks.
Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PinoyDynasty @ Jul 23 2007, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I predict that the Knicks will make the playoffs but only as a 7th or 8th seed...hopefully Raldolph will perform well and not end up a waste of money like most players Isiah brought into the Knicks.</div>Haha thats wishful thinking to say the least.
