When Everyone Gets Back and Fully Healthy.....

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  1. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, with McCollum sitting on the bench. Passing the ball to McCollum usually means not burning the other team at the hoop.
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Fucking 'A' absolutely.
    But it's not going to happen until next year and we've got to keep Whiteside, Anthony and Ariza as vital backups on a team very shallow in depth.
     
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    They let Green push the ball all series uncontested.
     
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    No.

    -Lillard can't average 50 PPG in the playoffs.
    -Our guards get ZERO respect from the refs, you can beat them down in the paint and get away with it.
    -We don't have a big Forward who can impose his will in the playoffs like Kawai,Lebron,AD,Giannis etc.
    -We don't rebound the ball and allow too many threes.
    -Terry Stotts.
     
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  5. Sprayzen1908

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    Abit excited with how Dame is playing but let’s be realistic - we have to make the finals before being a contender. We have to beat teams below us and around us. We have to win more than we lose.

    Let’s take 1 thing at a time, get above the line with a gap, win more than we lose and then talk finals contenders.
     
  6. wizenheimer

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    sure, and Nurkic returned in December like you predicted over and over

    meanwhile, we're all just predicting the near future of a team that got swept in the WCF, went thru a major roster rebuild, and has major injuries with no certainty at all that the injured players will return to anywhere near what they were by the time the playoffs are here. They weren't a contender last season, it's not irrational at all to think they aren't this season given the circumstances
     
  7. tlongII

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    Yeah that was a swing and a miss...

    However, if this team gets those guys back we’re in contention.
     
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    ok...maybe the difference comes down to the definition of contender. I think it means one of the 2 or 3 favorites for the championship. 4 at most and that's only in wide open years (which we haven't had in a long time). The Bucks are contenders. Toronto and Boston might be contenders...and might not be. The Lakers and Clippers are contenders. I don't think Denver, Utah or Houston are contenders. I don't think getting Nurkic and Collins back at 70-80% of what they were will have the Blazers leap frog those other 5 teams and put them in the class of Milwaukee, LAL, and LAC

    sure, you can come up with a perfect storm of a ton of different circumstances and project a pretender making it to the finals. That doesn't make them a contender though in my view.
     
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    I think this year is one of the more open years then past years. For one, we have a year with a lot of “new” teams, AD has been out of the first round once. GS has fell off from injuries, Milwaukee is the favorite but they havent proven it either and I would contend that Budenholzer has been here before, he’s a great regular season coach. PG13 sure wasnt the difference in the OKC series last year. My argument if I were to make one that Portland is a contender would be around outside of Denver all the teams in the west had either a lot of new pieces or will be incorporating new major pieces in the playoffs. I think LAL and Milwaukee are the favorites but absolutely think 7-8 teams have an argument they could make, and honestly most years it is like 2-3 teams.
     
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    Ariza has been Our Buck Williams glue guy who gives you a certain toughness. Thought he’d be to old to help but I was wrong he’s exactly type of player we needed to mix with our young guys and vets. Going to be interesting to see how Stotts mixes the injured players back in. If everyone excepts a told this team could be scary good. Only matchup I wouldn’t want is Clippers
     
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    Most contending teams have 2-3 all-stars, a couple elite defenders, and are surrounded with shooters.

    When healthy, I don't think our roster checks any of those boxes unforunately.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    If this is your roster then its very very good. But how do you make that work money-wise. Perhaps someone can enlighten us how regarding how you can pay all those bills? Hassan will want 12-15M a year. Ariza? Melo? Did getting rid of Bazemore make this more feasible??

    Dame
    CJ
    Ariza
    Melo
    Nurk
    Whiteside
    Collins
    Trent
    Nas/Simons/the others
     
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    You can’t make it work except for this year. All in
     
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    Isn't this thread somewhat moot? One of our primary pieces--Hood--won't be back at all this season. Perhaps not even at the beginning of the next. He had both a significant and unique role we haven't been able to replace on this team.
     
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    The Lakers, Clippers, and Bucks haven’t been to the Finals. Are they not contenders?
     
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    Hard to say, as the current roster will be retired long before that ever happens.
     
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    I'd like to know what NBA championship team had a compariable roster to this one?
     
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    If the objective is to have that same roster next year, then it’s not hard at all:

    Dame - Under contract
    CJ - Under contract
    Ariza - Team option on final year of contract
    Melo - Free Agent who wants to stay - Tax payer MLE
    Nurk - Under contract
    Whiteside - Bird rights to match any offer
    Collins - Under contract
    Trent - Under contract
    Little - Under contract
    Simons - Under contract
    Skal - Bird rights
    Hood - Player option which he’ll take while making comeback
    Hezonja - Player option which he’ll take due to excessive suckitude
     
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    The Utah Jazz! Oh, wait...

    A good example of having 2 or 3 top-tier players but never getting there.

    Clyde and Company is another great example from the same era.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    It definitely doesnt. We dont enough all around.
     
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