NBA Trade Deadline: February 6

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by TBpup, Jan 21, 2020.

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What other Moves will be made?

Poll closed Feb 4, 2020.
  1. Whiteside is gone!

    31.2%
  2. Ariza gets moved....again

    2.6%
  3. Carmelo goes to a contender

    0 vote(s)
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  4. Neil surprises everyone and trades CJ

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  5. Small move around one of the TPE's

    24.7%
  6. Jack Squat

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Trades can be separated for each team. From SA's perspective they are shedding salary. From the Blazers' perspective they don't have to include Mario for it to work so it's good there too. The Blazers would actually generate a TPE for Hezonja and the Spurs one for Carroll.

    @Scalma's trade does work.

    Edit: ESPN has a feature to click to "use" TPE for a player but even if you click on it the trade still says failed.
     
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    handiman Well-Known Member

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    It's a non-trivial distinction when the knock on a player is he's too small for the [wrong] position. Do you really think it's coincidental that he's playing much better at the position he's got the right tools for?

    NBA.com lists him as a guard-forward, but ESPN has him as purely a shooting guard.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3155526/dillon-brooks

    More importantly, he's playing the SG position according to the box score.
     
  3. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Good point about each team being able to structure its side of the deal separately. Crazy CBS rules. The Blazers would still be increasing their payroll, but not by as much. I guess it’s up to Jody on that.
     
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    Blazers Roy Well-Known Member

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    I applied mine too.

    I watched forwards dominate most finals and conference finals this past decade and my common sense told me that small point guards and big men in suits are not preferable to a Center who is actually playing (HW), a big Forward who can shoot from anywhere,who is one of the best young talents in the league and another big SF who can defend multiple positions and shoot the open three.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm not super high on that move but it would be a good sign that they aren't worried about payroll anymore after seemingly trying to save money this year.

    There's a ton of players I'd rather pursue with the TPE if they're going to use it.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Just a reminder, we still have the $2.85 mil Hood DPE that we can use in a trade.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    14 million for DeMarre Carroll.

    Somehow I just don't think that's something Jody is willing to do. I don't even think Paul would do it given the context of the season. I'd rather give those 15-20 minutes to Nassir anyways - play him through the growing pains and hope you get a rotation player out of him sooner.
     
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    hmmm...take a look at this comparison between Beasely, Trent, and Little:

    http://bkref.com/tiny/5M92U

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    I don't see much reason to trade for a player like Beasely when Portland already has 2 players that are arguably as good, or better, and play similar positions. And, Beasley will be RFA this summer, needing a new contract. Meanwhile, Little has 3 more seasons on his rookie deal, and Trent has another season on his
     
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    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    Carroll? We would need multiple 1st round picks to take that garbage contract back. His 3 point shooting has fallen off a cliff (23%) in the era when you need your SF to be 3 and D.
     
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    He has 13 attempts this season. That’s not a sample size.
     
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    Correct. However, in this case it would not be in combination. There would be essentially 2 trades.

    Carroll -> into the Baze TPE
    Mario -> into a newly created Carroll TPE.

    It's a legal trade proposal
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Beasley had a much better season last year, and given how young he is, I could see why some people would want to take the risk.

    But he's due for an extension this off-season, and his regression is making him look very Allen Crabbe-ish.
     
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    sure, but it might be better to save that for players that will inevitably get waived after the deadline
     
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    Just don't include a 1st round pick or any of our young players for a player who is not a needle mover.
    We usually tend to regret those types of trades down the road.
     
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    I like Malik beasley but his minutes would come at the expense of Trent/Little. The reason I like Carroll is because he’s more of a 3/4 that played a bunch of PF last year in Brooklyn. I also get why Portland wouldn’t want his contract, but the way I look at it is if they’re not dipping the tax, they may as well put out the best possible team. And next year his contract could be useful in a trade.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Woj:

    What kind of reality do we exist in where Robert freaking Covington can actually bring back 2 first round picks?
     
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    Zach Collins Enthusiast Bored

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    I have a feeling Neil has something up his sleeve and being a big Neil fan I'm sure I'm gonna like it
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    I prefer no expectations anyway. I hate when we go into a deadline with all these media types telling us how active Portland is and then Olshey get interviewed on deadline day with that little smirk on his face letting us know how quiet the phones were.
     
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    he's smirking because he's the one that planted the rumors about Portland being active
     
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