Stackhouse staying put

Discussion in 'Dallas Mavericks' started by Diawsome, Jul 5, 2007.

  1. Diawsome

    Diawsome BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    827
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Stackhouse sticking with MavsSixth man agrees to three-year deal, according to sources 05:19 PM CDT on Thursday, July 5, 2007By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning Newsesefko@dallasnews.com The Mavericks have reached an agreement in principle on a three-year contract with sixth man Jerry Stackhouse, two sources said Thursday afternoon. While details remain to be finalized, the two sides have agreed on a deal that will make Stackhouse's salary for next season more than the mid-level exception, which is expected to be around $6 million. If the deal starts at $6.5 million, it would be worth more than $21 million for three seasons. It was not immediately known if any option years, either for the team or for Stackhouse, were included in the deal. Stackhouse has evolved into one of the NBA's best sixth men in his three seasons with the Mavericks and, at 32, he had said recently that he was confident that he and his agent, Jeff Schwartz, could reach an agreement with the Mavs. Stackhouse said he had no desire to relocate. Schwartz was not available for comment. Assuming no snags are hit with details of the deal, Stackhouse can sign on Wednesday, the first day that free agents can make agreements official. The Mavericks have said since the end of the season that retaining Stackhouse was their No. 1 priority in free agency. He provides toughness, scoring (13.3 points per game in three seasons) and a positive vibe in the locker room. With Stackhouse locked up, the Mavericks can turn their attention to other free-agent interests. They are taking a patient attack in dealing with the players who are believed to be their top targets: Charlotte's Gerald Wallace, Chicago's P.J. Brown, Miami's James Posey, Golden State's Matt Barnes and Philadelphia's Joe Smith. The Mavericks believe they will get the chance to acquire one or more of those players at a bargain price in the coming weeks.</div>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...s.476bba73.htmlA good signing for the Mavs. Though I had hoped he would pack his bags for the east just so he can't torch us as often as he has in the past few years.
     
  2. LAZY

    LAZY BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    4,000
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Finally. I'm glad Mavs finally got Stack commited so now they can focus on grabing somone off the Free Agent list. I knew Stack would resign with the Mavs. Because he made comments with in the week Mavs got elimiated from playoffs he would resign. Excited to still have Stack on the bench
     
  3. Justice

    Justice BBW VIP

    Joined:
    May 28, 2006
    Messages:
    6,144
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Yeah, I don't really care what mavsfan says, I think Stack is a huge part of our success. I'm not sure that I like the 3 year part of it. It would be good if there's an option part in it... I'm not sure if he has 3 more in him. We'll see.
     
  4. LAZY

    LAZY BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    4,000
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Yeah I'm also a little shocked at a 3 year contract. I was thinking something along the lines of one year and second year as a option. Stack must be confident he can still play for 3 more years(35).And I also dont care what Mavsfan thinks. Because I know his fantasy starting line up is Marquis Daniels and Ager
     
  5. Justice

    Justice BBW VIP

    Joined:
    May 28, 2006
    Messages:
    6,144
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LAZY @ Jul 5 2007, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I'm also a little shocked at a 3 year contract. I was thinking something along the lines of one year and second year as a option. Stack must be confident he can still play for 3 more years(35).</div>I guess I just feel like it's entirely realistic for him to go either way. I could see him playing for 3 or 4 more years, but I could also see him calling it quits after a year or 2 more.
     
  6. Rok

    Rok BBW VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,443
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    It's good to hear some news, although that contract sucks ass imo. I don't mind the 3 year part, it's how much he's being paid per year. 6.5 mil? He's making more than amount of the MLE. That's ridiculous considering he wouldn't have got that in the market. I understand were over the cap but at least be smart about it.Glad to see him back, just don't like the deal.Hopefully we can move on now to other free agents and some realistic ones. Don't understand putting the eggs in the Gerald Wallace basket. I believe Joe Smith and the Sixers have given indications like the Mavs have with Stack the past month, they want to come to an agreement and continue their working relationship. PJ Brown is still a solid candidate but were between Bulls and retirement. And between Posey and Barnes, I think neither are worth the MLE, both to me are average role players. Posey is on the decline, and has a sh*t attitude to boot. Barnes might be a one hit wonder, this was a guy who bounced around the league.Don't get why we haven't sent feelers(or maybe we have) to guys like Desmond Mason and Mo Petersen.
     
  7. Justice

    Justice BBW VIP

    Joined:
    May 28, 2006
    Messages:
    6,144
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 5 2007, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And between Posey and Barnes, I think neither are worth the MLE, both to me are average role players. Posey is on the decline, and has a sh*t attitude to boot. Barnes might be a one hit wonder, this was a guy who bounced around the league.</div>Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of Barnes. Posey is okay, but I agree with the bad attitude. I think those are last resorts if we don't get some of these other guys.
     
  8. Marvinmartian

    Marvinmartian BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,358
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    I don't mind the contract at all. I mean I know it's probably too much for him, but it was more of a loyalty contract by Cubes than anything, but it doesn't really affect the cap at all, since the Mavs were over the cap anyways, and weren't going to get under it, lol.If the Mavs were under the cap and used the MLE or the rest of their "free" money to sign Stack, I'd look at this completely differently. But as it is, this does nothing to deter the Mavs from going after someone, ANYONE, in FA that they could have gotten before signing Stack.This really only affects the starting roster and rotation. I hope this move doesn't stunt Ager, who I still want to see if they can player, and Rey Terry, who I want to see play as well.As for the FA's, I dont' think Barnes or Posey are worth the MLE, but then again, they might be in this market...that could be what it takes to get either, and we'll probably need one if we don't G Wallace.
     
  9. Rok

    Rok BBW VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,443
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I hope this move doesn't stunt Ager, who I still want to see if they can player, and Rey Terry, who I want to see play as well.</div>If I were Mavs, I'd ship Ager out for a 2nd rounder.
     
  10. Marvinmartian

    Marvinmartian BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,358
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    ^You dont' think he can play at all do you?I dont' share your sentement...yet.LOL.I think the kid could be decent, and since the Mavs NEED size at guard, specifically the 2 guard, then I think the Mavs need to give him every oppurtunity to play and reach his potential...
     
  11. mavsfan1000

    mavsfan1000 BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    5,316
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Avery's love for Stackhouse is sickening. Once Stackhouse loses a lot of his athleticism, he is done. Imagine Stackhouse playing like Finley. Jumpshooter without a consistent jumpshot. He is also overpayed. I'm not happy about the 3 years or the price he got. I question Avery's IQ. Does he not see Stackhouse's flaws? Yeah if Stackhouse 15-20 minutes a game than it wouldn't be such a big deal except he is getting payed like a starter. Flame me all you want. I'm just expressing my opinion on where I think this team is going. The Buckner deal was equally bad if not worse though. I'd easily take Marquis over Buckner and an over the hill Stackhouse. This team is taking a step back imo unless Harris really improves this year. George should be starting though as Dallas needs Harris or Terry as a 6th man. The label of Stackhouse being one of the best 6th man is just so inaccurate.
     
  12. Rok

    Rok BBW VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,443
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'd easily take Marquis over Buckner and an over the hill Stackhouse.</div>You would you Marquis homer. That guy did nothing in Indiana and got in trouble with the law on two occassions. He's paid more than Buck and Stack, so I'm not in agreement. He's not that good. The thing about Buckner is with his contract, he's tradeable or we won't pick up his option after this season. So he's a non issue. If Mavs wanted to, he'd be gone easy.Stackhouse's contract after examination seems to be out of loyalty. He doesn't effect our cap situation and didn't eat into any of our exceptions, so I welcome him back. And I don't think Spurs minded Finley's production to their ring. Because he did produce for them.
     
  13. mavsfan1000

    mavsfan1000 BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    5,316
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 12 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You would you Marquis homer. That guy did nothing in Indiana and got in trouble with the law on two occassions. He's paid more than Buck and Stack, so I'm not in agreement. He's not that good. The thing about Buckner is with his contract, he's tradeable or we won't pick up his option after this season. So he's a non issue. If Mavs wanted to, he'd be gone easy.Stackhouse's contract after examination seems to be out of loyalty. He doesn't effect our cap situation and didn't eat into any of our exceptions, so I welcome him back. And I don't think Spurs minded Finley's production to their ring. Because he did produce for them.</div>I was comparing Stackhouse to Finley because Finley is mainly a jumpshooter now. Stackhouse shouldn't do that because he is not as good of a jumpshooter as Finley. The spurs gave Finley an easy assignment most of the time. Easy minutes and wait at the 3 point line when Duncan or Parker kicks out. Stackhouse's game is built more on speed and without that he can't get away with playing Finley's style. Daniels was in the wrong crowd in Indiana. Josh Howard would've been a better influence on Daniels. In Dallas, Avery didn't give Daniels enough minutes to get in a rhythm. He is obviously talented but just needed minutes to get his confidence up. Don Nelson gave it to him and Avery didn't.
     
  14. Rok

    Rok BBW VIP

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2006
    Messages:
    6,443
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Daniels was in the wrong crowd in Indiana. Josh Howard would've been a better influence on Daniels. In Dallas, Avery didn't give Daniels enough minutes to get in a rhythm. He is obviously talented but just needed minutes to get his confidence up. Don Nelson gave it to him and Avery didn't.</div>You're just giving excuses for Daniels now. When he was traded, you expected him to do well, and he didn't. Now you're saying he was in the wrong crowd. [​IMG] He still hangs out with Howard and Benga as seen from pics, so it's no excuse to throw out. I'll take ready talent over potential talent that would probably never be reached.
     

Share This Page