Politics 2020 Field - DNC

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  1. VanillaGorilla

    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    That was bad
     
  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There is not much to like about Joe Biden's campaign, but the team making his video commercials is really excellent. He's had several very good ones (which probably no one saw, because his fundraising sucks). The one hitting Buttigieg this weekend is really sharp. Much, much more effective hit than (for example) Amy saying, well, several years ago Pete tweeted that he was in favor of M4A and now he isn't. That's a weak-ass attempt, Biden's ad is much tougher.

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    Wow. That was some pretty cringy 2nd grade humor.
     
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  5. yankeesince59

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    I think Biden is toast.
     
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  6. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Maybe, but I'm not so sure that we can call this one just yet.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    He's already slipped in the polls, didn't do well at all in Iowa (he even referred to it as "a gut punch), and I don't think his showing in the last debate helped his cause at all.
     
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    agree, he will do better in the southeast/south & midwest.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Oh my god, someone changed jobs! It's a conspiracy!

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    No, it's election rigging.
     
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    By Gregg Re | Fox News

    Biden calls New Hampshire voter a 'lying dog-faced pony solider' when asked about his performance in the Iowa caucus

    The former vice president defends his electability during a campaign event in New Hampshire after being questioned about taking fourth place in Iowa.

    Presidential contender Joe Biden called a college student in New Hampshire a "lying, dog-faced pony soldier" during a campaign event on Sunday, just two months after he unloaded on an Iowa voter whom he called a "damn liar" and days after he dryly instructed a climate activist to "go vote for someone else."

    The campaign trail headscratchers came as Biden, 77, has gone on the offensive following his disappointing fourth-place finish in last week's disastrous Iowa caucuses, well behind rivals Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

    The student, Madison, of Mercer University in Georgia, began by asking Biden how he could remain competitive in the race after that performance.

    "It's a good question," Biden responded. "Number one: Iowa's a democratic caucus. You ever been to a caucus? No you haven't. You're a lying, dog-faced pony soldier. You said you were; but now you got to be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you. It was a little bit confusing in Iowa."

    Biden had used the bizarre phrase in January as well, in response to a question about President Obama's broken promise that individuals would be guaranteed the option to keep their doctors under the Affordable Care Act.

    Contrary to Biden's previous suggestions that the line was from a John Wayne movie, TMZ reported that the phrase may have come from the 1952 Tyrone Power film called "Pony Soldier."

    Nevertheless, the moment drew mockery from conservatives and other commentators.

    "You're a lying, dog-faced pony soldier."
    — Joe Biden

    "If he can’t handle a simple question from one of his own supporters, how can Joe Biden possibly take on Donald Trump one on one for six months?" asked Donald Trump, Jr., on Twitter.

    George Washington University law professor and GOP impeachment witness Jonathan Turley added: "Hmmm, Biden does not appear to be confining his 'go negative' strategy to [Pete] Buttigieg, but seems to think it will work with voters. Calling a voter 'a lying dog-faced pony soldier' must be a new voter suppression strategy by targeting your own voters."

    Also in New Hampshire, Biden forcefully echoed failed presidential contender Eric Swalwell in dismissing Second Amendment advocates, claiming personal gun ownership is an ineffective defense against government tyranny. (In an infamous tweet, Swalwell informed a gun-rights proponent that the government "has nukes" and could defeat an uprising in a "short war.")

    "Those who say 'the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots' -- a great line, well, guess what: The fact is, if you’re going to take on the government you need an F-15 with Hellfire Missiles," Biden said. "There is no way an AK-47 is going to take care of you, if you're worried about the government coming and knocking down your door."


    Biden's defensiveness on the campaign trail has raised questions about his possible electability issues, especially given President Trump's propensity for hammering the Bidens' perceived corruption. This past December in Iowa, Biden slammed a voter who questioned Hunter Biden's business dealings as a "damn liar" who needed to take an "IQ test."

    The former vice president then seemingly called the man "fat" after deriding him for his self-professed sedentary lifestyle, although the Biden campaign said there was a misunderstanding.

    Biden has stepped up his aggressiveness in recent days, although his attacks have been increasingly directed not just at individual voters, but also other rivals for the White House.

    "This guy's not a Barack Obama. Barack Obama had been a United States senator of a really large state," Biden said this weekend, referring to Buttigieg. "This is a very different situation."

    Biden spoke with reporters hours after his campaign went up with a new digital ad suggesting the 38-year old candidate -- who's nearly four decades younger than Biden -- didn't have enough experience to be president.

    The spot used a clip of then-President Obama calling Biden "the best vice president America's ever had," before going on to compare arguable successes of the Obama administration with mundane mayoral actions by Buttigieg, such as installing "decorative lights under bridges."

    Buttigieg's team, in response, argued: “Vice President’s decision to run this ad speaks more to where he currently stands in this race than it does about Pete’s perspective as a mayor and veteran.”

    Asked about his campaign’s digital video, Biden explained: “What I’m doing is responding to what Pete’s been saying for the last two months, that all the problems we have today are from the recent past.”

    “When you get attacked, you have to respond. I kept my mouth shut for a long time. I haven’t responded at all. But it’s been constant, a constant assertion that the problems we’re facing today are somehow because of our administration. That’s simply not true,” Biden said.
     
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    Wow. You really don’t see the conflict here?
     
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    They are all hired political mercenaries, its required to become a cable news political commentator.
     
  15. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    So....................Biden gets defensive, treats someone rudely and possibly (possibly) lies and now Joe Biden is bad. Donald “Rent Boy” Trump is defensive, rude and lies 24/7 and Donald “Rent Boy” Trump is good? Got it. Your (and the Right’s) hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking.......you really do take this caricature thing too far sometimes. Maybe you’d actually have some credibility if you knew when and where the line between reality and fantasy began and ended.....??? Just sayin’........
     
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    That seems to be a truism no one defines. On what issue? Because if you look at actual positions, not caricatures, they are very popular.

    A majority supports comprehensive immigration reform. Every time is seems to happen, the right scuttles it. Congress was willing to give Trump money for his vanity wall that Mexico was going to totally pay for he guaranteed it in exchange for path to citizenship for Dreamers and extending temporary protective status, at the last minute he backed out when white supremacists screamed.
    A majority supports common sense gun regulation like background checks, banning assault weapons, and keeping guns from people with domestic violence convictions; Republicans in Senate refuse to consider the bills.
    A majority supports increasing minimum wage and more equitable taxation.
    A majority supports greater access to health care, although disagreeing over how to get there. The Trump administration has several lawsuits before the courts trying to take away health care from millions.
    A majority believes global warming should be addressed; the Republican position is that it's a hoax.
    A majority wanted to hear from witnesses at impeachment "trial", the Republicans said no.
    A majority even if uneasy with abortion wants it legal, and reproductive choice is not just abortion. It is education, birth control, and healthy pregnancy. A huge issue for black women who die in childbirth at twice the rate of white women of same income and education. The position of the Republican party is outlaw all abortion and birth control, and no sex education. Also cutting food aid for pregnant women and infants.

    So what Republican positions should be embraced?

    Tulsi Gabbard said my equal rights were being "shoved down her throat". My life experience was discrimination shoved down my throat. I will never vote for a candidate who considers my civil rights something they choke on.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No. It's a conspiracy theorist's view of the world. In reality, people are allowed to change jobs and work for a different employer. Especially low-level people like this.

    Would you be unable to properly perform your duties if you got hired by some other organization in the same general field, due to your loyalties to your current employer?

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  18. Hoopguru

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    If it was so concerning, they would certain employees sign Conflict of Interest agreements. Even then, most don't hold up in court fro a lower level position.
     
  19. jonnyboy

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    You’re pasting it over with generalizations. We’re not talking about your average employment situation in the private sector. She was given a position in “voter protection” in an active election when she clearly has loyalties to a candidate in the current race. If it wasn’t sketchy, she wouldn’t have scrubbed her employment history from public view. Its just more blatant DNC garbage favored meddling, like the shit they just pulled in Iowa. They flipped over the card table in the middle of a game and gave a half-assed “whoops” as an explanation, then proceeded to choose who they wanted as the winner (the same guy who employed the woman in question).
     
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    Voter Protection Director for the state’s Democratic Party isn’t a “low level position”.

    The only thing she’ll be protecting is the DNCs preferred candidate from the votes against them.
     
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