Politics Can Sanders beat Trump?

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  1. ABM

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    BTW. Bernie would be FDR on steroids. A complete abuse of power and quid pro quo.
     
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    Every administration from here on out will be. They dont have to hide it anymore.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So since you like that sort of thing, I assume you'll be voting Bernie in 2020?

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    Good read.

    It hadn't yet occurred to me that if Bernie gets elected, there will be some very angry Bernie bros when they discover there will not be a revolution and that he's an establishment hack much like everyone else.

    And that will be a wee bit entertaining.

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    I think you'll be disappointed by how few people react that way. But I am pretty sure he will do all he can to stop billionaires and yuge corporations from controlling politics. Of course it's not all going to get completely solved in 4 years. I'd bet very few people are expecting that.
     
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    I don't know about that. I saw plenty of people deeply disillusioned with Obama when he turned out to not be able to part the seas and make lions lay down with the lambs.

    Maybe Bernie supporters are much more practical, we'll see. Their rhetoric suggests otherwise.

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    This is just an opinion but I think what much of politics comes down too right now are these two things what do people fear, and who do we blame for where the country is currently at.
    The “progressives” and such seem to have a fear of the 0.01% that they are controlling everything, that they are using government legislation to increase their fortunes and to hold competition at arms length. At the same time they blame the 0.01% for many of the failures of our society, they think the existence of billionaires is wrong because they got there by keeping poor and middle class people poor and middle class.
    Then on the other side you have a bunch of people who fear basically the government and large government agencies controlling everything they do. They think you give them an inch and they’ll take a mile, that even the more respectable goals of healthcare and such will eventually lead to a chinese like social system that the government is literally telling us what to think say, and what to believe. They blame long time politicians, political correctness, and corrupt government officials for where they are currently at financially and their social status.
    I think most moderates see bits and pieces of all those things that they agree with but are “fearful” of both extreme answers to the topics at hand.
    I know those are massive generalities and not necessarily true for everyone. However I 100% believe whether its a “Bernie bro”, or a “Trumpster”, for most people if we take a step back from ourselves and our emotions and try to think about it from the perspective of someone else, we could at least begin to understand that those people are really driven by very similar things as we are even if they have a different outlook on what the issues are and who is causing them.

    Personally I dont fear “Bernie”, but I also can totally say I do have some very strong hesitations about socialism overall and what “big” government means for me, and for my family. Now this article may be right maybe Bernie wouldnt be so bad and many of his more “extreme” ideas wouldnt get through. However if we as a country can stop with the rhetoric and saying things like Bernies a commie, or if you vote Trump you’re a racist, and begin to talk and communicate respectfully about things I think we’d be better off for it.
     
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    That's a revolutionary idea you have there!

    I fear it, and I blame you.

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    Actually, no. We're currently in the process of selling all of our assets and moving to The Azores.
     
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    Very good post!
    As a people we do need to come together and help pave an easier way for the young people to learn what it means to give and take and be free in offering ideas and building on freedom and respect for others.
     
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    In that case, why do you still care about Trump/GOP one way or the other?
     
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    Depends what you mean by "establishment". Seems like the billionaires will be equally surprised if he turns out to be what Pete Buttigieg already nakedly is.
     
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    As per usual, you skirt/avoid the issue/question...but hey, at least consistency is your friend.
     
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    Thanks. I try to be. :)
     
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    Shit you might as well just vote for Bloomberg then.
     

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